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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 30/11/2015 06:15, Bryce Nesbitt
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<div class="gmail_extra">Any quick comments on this schema,
before I write it up?</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">amenity=self_serve_tool_</span><span
class=""
style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">station</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">brand=Dero
Fixit</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">operator=Metro
Country Trails</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">opening_hours=24/7</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">self_serve_tool_station:</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">bicycles=yes</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">self_serve_tool_station:snow_</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">sports=no</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">self_serve_tool_station:ice_</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">skates=no</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">self_serve_tool_station:</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">skateboards=no</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">service:</span><span
class=""
style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">bicycle</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">:pump=yes</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">service:</span><span
class=""
style="font-size:12.8px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">bicycle</span><span
style="font-size:12.8px">:chain_tool=no</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">last_check:status=All
tools vandalized</span></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><span style="font-size:12.8px">last_check=2015-01-01</span></div>
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My first thought is that even fewer people will understand what this
is than understand what a "bicycle repair station" is. As I said
back in
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027436.html">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/2015-November/027436.html</a>
I'd suggest that you try and understand what's happening rather than
just picking another key name and hoping for the best.<br>
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Have you looked at the statistics associated with people adding
amenity=bicycle_repair_station, both correctly and incorrectly, and
compared them with (say) shop=bicycle or shop=car_repair? <br>
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I suspect you might see a bias towards iD compared with the other
two tags because a search for "repair" comes up with car_repair and
bicycle_repair_station, but not shop=bicycle (which is where most
people take their bike if they can't fix it themselves). You've
already logged <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2845">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/2845</a>
against iD; once a fix for that is incorporated and goes live we
could see if any bias towards iD continues.<br>
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In your 26/11/2015 04:48 post (the parent to the one above) you
wrote:<br>
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> I could mechanically tag the problematic
"bicycle_repair_station" to fit within something like this:<br>
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It's perhaps at this stage worth mentioning
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct</a>
. Any mechanical edit would need to be discussed with the wider OSM
community outside the tagging list, and there's no guarantee that it
would be accepted.<br>
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Poorly designed and poorly located imports are unhelpful to
OpenStreetMap. Based on the data that you tried to import in the
UK, your bicycle repair station import was both of those things.
Mechanical edits without proper consideration are also unhelpful;
please don't do that too.<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
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Andy Townsend (SomeoneElse)<br>
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