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On 27/12/2015 3:13 PM, Warin wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 27/12/2015 12:19 PM, Dave
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<div dir="ltr">I think you are overreaching a bit on this. For
one thing, not all forests are for wood production - rubber
tree plantations for example are for extracting sap from
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Had not thought of that. <br>
Some trees produce nuts, others fruit .. they would be
landuse=orchard. With landcover=trees. <br>
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{add ..} and some trees are used to produce oil e.g. sandalwood,
tea tree and eucalyptus oils. {/add}<br>
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<div>Natural=wood seems perfectly correct to me for stands of
trees in a more or less "natural" state whereas
landcover=trees implies, at least to me, an area with
planted trees that are not being used for sap, or lumber,
etc., but more for their decorative or shading effect.</div>
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Err.. I think your confusing landUSE with landCOVER. <br>
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To me landcover=trees simply means there are trees there. It does
not say what they are used for. <br>
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So suitable tags for an area used for lumber would be <br>
landuse=forestry<br>
landcover=trees<br>
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An area of trees for decoration, recreation<br>
landcover=trees<br>
landuse=recreation ? <br>
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How are rubber trees tagged now? I would tag <br>
landcover=trees<br>
landuse=orchard ... ? Don't know. Possibly landuse=forestry with
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{edit} forestry set to 'an area for the production of products
from trees (e.g. wood), excluding production of fruit/nuts (see
orchard)'? <br>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dorchard">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dorchard</a> <br>
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There will need to be examples of the products. <br>
And it should also document the ancillary things e.g. sawmills,
drying and storage sheds for possible inclusion.<br>
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<div>What's your motivation do do this? <br>
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area <br>
Attempt to make clear what tags to use for a 'forest' ... <br>
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Document landuse=forestry such that it cannot be used for anything
other than forestry. (I hope! <span class="moz-smiley-s1"><span>
:-) </span></span>)<br>
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Long term remove the present use of landuse=forest.<br>
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I have come across the problems while adding some National Parks,
State Forests and Conservation Areas that all had the tag
landuse=forest on them. <br>
I have changed that, but would like to see a reduction in the
possibility of future inappropriate tagging. {/edit}<br>
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For example <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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suggest the density of the plants is the distinguishing thing
between natural=wood and landuse=forest. <br>
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The implication of landuse=foresty is fairly clear? <br>
And I hope be translated without too much blurring of the
intention? <br>
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class="">On 27/12/2015 00:43, Warin wrote:<br>
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The present multiple applications landuse=forest has
me thinking that a new tag of<br>
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landuse=forestry<br>
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maybe best to focus this new tag onto a specific
forest use - that of wood production.<br>
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</span> For info, I have used that (once!):<br>
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Rendering<br>
The rendering of landuse=forestry should incorporate a
brown axe onto the original forest rendering to show
that it is for wood production.<br>
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</span> I've not tried rendering it though.<br>
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Cheers,<br>
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Andy
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