<div dir="ltr">Is the problem here basically one of rendering? A man_made mast can have many functions, whether guyed or not, and those functions can be further specified in subservient tags. If the next tag is mast=lighting or mast:type=lighting this can be shown with a proper icon. Similarly for mast=communication or mast=loud_speaker. <div><br></div><div>A similar scheme is already in use with man_made=tower. There are several tower:type tags in use to clarify their function and their display on a map.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:05 AM, Marc Zoutendijk <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marczoutendijk@mac.com" target="_blank">marczoutendijk@mac.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><br><div><span class=""><blockquote type="cite"><div>On 17 feb. 2016, at 21:22 Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:</div><br><div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Generally, when the definitions in OSM are different from what a person speaking the language might expect, it doesn't work. The issue here:<br></div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">"small" "a few meters high" seems not pertinent for radio masts which are among the tallest man made structures on earth, particularly when made of concrete or steel they can be hundreds of meters high. A quick image search confirms this (no small structures at all had been found)<br><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>I was talking about a mast, not about towers.</div><div>The wiki (how “unlucky" it may be) is clear on the difference between a mast and a tower. [1]</div><span class=""><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">From a mast I'd expect to have guy wires, while a tower should typically be freestanding, so the word "small tower" doesn't seem to be a lucky choice either.</div></div></blockquote></span></div><div><br></div><div>I don’t expect guy wires, neither does the wiki, nor have I ever seen them in use for all (55 or so) man_made=mast structures that are in my neighbourhood (in the Nehterlands). Typically “small” masts of steel or concrete and about 5 - 15 meters high.</div><div><br></div><div>But that was not my question in the first place, I asked for the use of:</div><div><br></div><div>man_made=mast</div><div>mast=lighting</div><div><br></div><div>or</div><div>mast:type=lighting</div><div><br></div><div>Marc.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made=mast" target="_blank">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dmast</a></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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