<div dir="ltr"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As others have mentioned, telephone/fax are very frequent in many parts of the world, hence the option of using them. The description says "and/or", meaning that they are optional.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">However, I am persuaded by comments here and on the wiki page that the PRINCIPAL role of the place should be the providing of internet services, and will amend the proposal to reflect that.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">This means that LAN gaming centres will not be included in this, but I will leave service:gaming as an option. Someone else can propose an amenity=gaming_centre tag.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">As to coffee/tea/cake ... they are covered in the proposal (service:food=yes), and in fact the main purpose of this proposal is to distinguish cafes (whose primary business is selling coffee/tea/cake but might offer internet service) from these "crappy little shops," as one commenter put it, whose primary business is the internet but might offer coffee/tea/cake on the side.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">Both wifi and printing are mentioned. A place that is primarily for printing doesn't belong here; if it's a copy shop, there is already a copy_shop tag. Wifi (properly tagged WLAN, since wifi is a trademark) is covered by the internet_access key, which is specifically referenced in the proposal.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap">Download/upload speed is properly part of the existing internet_access key, and is mentioned as part of its Talk: page. See <a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:internet_access">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Key:internet_access</a></pre></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)">I don't think CD/DVD burning is a major function that needs to be separately listed in the documentation. Anyone can of course use any tag they like. For example, I don't see any mention of DVD burning in the OSM wiki.</pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br></pre><pre style="white-space:pre-wrap;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><br class=""><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>> On Tue, Feb 23, 2016 at 5:52 PM Warin <</span><a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">61sundowner@gmail.com</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">> wrote:</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> On 24/02/2016 4:33 AM, Johnparis wrote:</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> A place whose principal role is providing communication services</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> (internet, telephone and/or fax).</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Telephone?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Fax?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Don't thing these are frequent?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> No mention of coffee/tea/cake?</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Nor a mention of additional services such as wifi, CD/DVD burning,</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> printing....</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Think there is a need to indicate how to tag such things that will</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> probably occur for some places.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Other than the fee .. probably the most important thing about these</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> places is the download/upload speed. Some way of tagging that would be</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> good.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> Sorry to pollute the original idea ... but these thing help identify the</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> 'internet_cafe' from the 'cafe with internet'.</span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>> </span><a href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Internet_cafe" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Internet_cafe</a><br style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:12.8px;white-space:normal">>>></span></pre></div>