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      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site</a><br>
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      That says his remains are in said tomb... as shown in your linked
      photo. <br>
      The only reference I can see to a 'cenotaph' are your words ...
      where do you get it from?<br>
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      On 20-Sep-16 08:36 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:<br>
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      <p dir="ltr">In what way is it not a cenotaph? It is clearly a
        structural monument. It is in memory of a deceased person. Said
        deceased person is not entombed there, although his remains are
        thought to be in an unmarked grave somewhere nearby. It looks
        like a tomb, but nobody is entombed in it.</p>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2016 6:31 PM, "Warin" <<a
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              <div>On 20-Sep-16 12:51 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">tomb=cenotaph sounds perfect, if unusual.<br>
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                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site#/media/File:Baron_von_Steuben_Monumental_Tomb_Jul_10.jpg"
                    target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Steuben_Memorial_State_<wbr>Historic_Site#/media/File:<wbr>Baron_von_Steuben_Monumental_<wbr>Tomb_Jul_10.jpg</a>
                  is the cenotaph that I was mapping when the question
                  arose. Baron von Steuben's remains are in an unmarked
                  grave somewhere nearby. The 'memorial tomb' was
                  erected, contrary to his express wish to be buried in
                  an unmarked grave, decades after his death. It is
                  claimed, but by no means certain, that the memorial
                  covers his remains. He is most certainly not entombed
                  within it.<br>
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              Not a 'cenotaph'. <u>Cenotaphs are not tombs</u>! <br>
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              A definition of cenotaph is;<br>
              a) a structural monument in memory to a deceased person
              whose body is elsewhere (so not a tomb)<br>
              b) a municipal, civic, or national memorial to those
              killed in war. <br>
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              On the LPI data base (for Australia, New South Wales)
              there are 13 listed 'cenotaphs'. <br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at 8:32
                    AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">2016-09-19 13:17
                              GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer <span
                                dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                  href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com"
                                  target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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                                class="gmail_quote">there's only one
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                          </span>btw., those cenotaphs wikipedia has as
                          examples in osm would rather be
                          historic=monument than memorial I think:<br>
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                            href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenotaph"
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                        <div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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