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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Sorry .. reread your words..<br>
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While the 'monument' is alleged to have the remains under them
.. then the monument is sited on an (alleged) 'tomb'. As such
the monument is part of the 'tomb'. <br>
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Even the title of the photo says 'tomb'. <br>
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I would not take it as a good example of a 'cenotaph'.<br>
Possibly<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/AlamoMemorial-0727.jpg/400px-AlamoMemorial-0727.jpg">https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/AlamoMemorial-0727.jpg/400px-AlamoMemorial-0727.jpg</a>
would be better? <br>
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Note that is not a tomb. <br>
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On 20-Sep-16 03:43 PM, Warin wrote:<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Read <br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site</a><br>
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That says his remains are in said tomb... as shown in your
linked photo. <br>
The only reference I can see to a 'cenotaph' are your words
... where do you get it from?<br>
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On 20-Sep-16 08:36 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:<br>
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<p dir="ltr">In what way is it not a cenotaph? It is clearly
a structural monument. It is in memory of a deceased
person. Said deceased person is not entombed there,
although his remains are thought to be in an unmarked
grave somewhere nearby. It looks like a tomb, but nobody
is entombed in it.</p>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 19, 2016 6:31 PM, "Warin"
<<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<div>On 20-Sep-16 12:51 AM, Kevin Kenny wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">tomb=cenotaph sounds perfect, if
unusual.<br>
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<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steuben_Memorial_State_Historic_Site#/media/File:Baron_von_Steuben_Monumental_Tomb_Jul_10.jpg"
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Steuben_Memorial_State_<wbr>Historic_Site#/media/File:<wbr>Baron_von_Steuben_Monumental_<wbr>Tomb_Jul_10.jpg</a>
is the cenotaph that I was mapping when the
question arose. Baron von Steuben's remains are
in an unmarked grave somewhere nearby. The
'memorial tomb' was erected, contrary to his
express wish to be buried in an unmarked grave,
decades after his death. It is claimed, but by
no means certain, that the memorial covers his
remains. He is most certainly not entombed
within it.<br>
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Not a 'cenotaph'. <u>Cenotaphs are not tombs</u>! <br>
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A definition of cenotaph is;<br>
a) a structural monument in memory to a deceased
person whose body is elsewhere (so not a tomb)<br>
b) a municipal, civic, or national memorial to those
killed in war. <br>
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On the LPI data base (for Australia, New South
Wales) there are 13 listed 'cenotaphs'. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 19, 2016 at
8:32 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <span dir="ltr"><<a
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wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-09-19
13:17 GMT+02:00 Martin Koppenhoefer
<span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com"
target="_blank">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br>
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0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"
class="gmail_quote">there's only
one memorial:type=cenotaph</blockquote>
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</span>btw., those cenotaphs wikipedia
has as examples in osm would rather be
historic=monument than memorial I think:<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cenotaph"
target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Cenotaph</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Cheers,<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Martin<br>
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