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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 03-Oct-16 08:43 PM, Martin
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<div class="gmail_quote">2016-10-03 11:33 GMT+02:00 Warin <span
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">What is this "whole
station"?????<br>
Does that include;<br>
a bus interchange located for rail passengers
convenience?<br>
a parking lot located for rail passengers use?<br>
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<div>you can decide this, typically I would say yes, these
could be part.<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> As a node it is
well defined. <br>
As an area its definition is nonexistant. <br>
The train station area can have added details; <br>
the area defined using landuse tag<br>
any buildings/roof defined using the building tag<br>
and so on (e.g. cafes, newsagent, toilet).<br>
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<div>You can't actually tell the "train station area" if you
mapped only a node. <br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> I think the 'node
only' is best and simplest. </div>
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<div class="gmail_extra">just do it then, nobody forces you to
say how big a station is, what shape it has, where the exits
are, what POIs belong to it, etc., just use a node and be done
with it. Simple.<br>
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Complex.<br>
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One 'station' could be mapped as an area to include lots of things
that could be considered to provide services to train passengers. <br>
The next 'station' could then be mapped as an area to only include
the platform. <br>
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There is then inconsistent mapping .. that looks to the map user
that one station is far bigger and therefore more important than the
other. In other words this will be a mess, it probably is now. <br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">FWIW, railway=station was defined on
areas until someone decided to remove it in 2015. Looking at
the actual data (which the wiki should document), there are
10% train stations mapped as areas, usage on ways growing
constantly since 2009, growth on nodes slowed slightly down
since 2013.<br>
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Defined? As in a formal statement of the meaning of a
'railway=station'? <br>
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Or that 'railway=station' could be used on an area? That is not a
definition, but a statement of use. <br>
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What does 'railway station' mean? <br>
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One definition is 'A place where a train regularly stops'. Another
is 'The building or buildings where a train regularly stops'. <br>
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As there will be some stations that have no buildings I would think
the first definition should be used. This definition would clearly
exclude all ancillary services. <br>
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--------------- From taginfo<br>
building=train_station some 16,742 instances in the data base. <br>
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landuse=train_station 0 instances ... probably not using the best
search terms here? <br>
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I see nothing wrong with mapping <br>
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The 'train station' as a single node with train=station, name=x<br>
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The 'train station' buildings as areas with building=train_station<br>
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The 'train station' service area as an area with
public_transport=station ! see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation">http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport%3Dstation</a><br>
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