<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xmlns:v="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:vml" xmlns:o="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px"><div>Hi Richard,</div><div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3485"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3484">Not just test tracks. Your post instantly brought to mind the training track at <a class="edited-link-editor enhancr2_b8dc44b7-dff0-bc5f-7932-edd6f1e5fb35" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3990" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38288436#map=16/38.9177/-6.3684">the Police school</a> outside Merida. I'm sure other Police training establishments must also have tracks designed for training of advanced driving skills.</span></div><div><br></div><div class="yahoo-link-enhancr-card ymail-preserve-class ymail-preserve-style" id="enhancr2_b8dc44b7-dff0-bc5f-7932-edd6f1e5fb35" style="max-width:400px;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;" dir="ltr" contenteditable="false" data-size="medium" data-type="yenhancr" data-category="website" data-embed-url="" data-url="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38288436#map=16/38.9177/-6.3684"> <a class="yahoo-enhancr-cardlink" style="text-decoration:none !important; color: #000 !important;" href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/38288436#map=16/38.9177/-6.3684" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer"> <table class="card-wrapper yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr> <td width="400"> <table width="100%" class="card yahoo-ignore-table" style="max-width:400px;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr> <td class="card-primary-image-cell" background="https://s.yimg.com/vv//api/res/1.2/qmUqLJ4STSX7nCSJ_pVOIg--/YXBwaWQ9bWFpbDtmaT1maWxsO2g9MjAwO3c9NDAw/http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-835a859acf0d378e1d14e88b15e7b4b95211ccd41a2c061b1629cfbbb8deb697.png.cf.jpg" valign="top" style="background:#000 url('https://s.yimg.com/vv//api/res/1.2/qmUqLJ4STSX7nCSJ_pVOIg--/YXBwaWQ9bWFpbDtmaT1maWxsO2g9MjAwO3c9NDAw/http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-835a859acf0d378e1d14e88b15e7b4b95211ccd41a2c061b1629cfbbb8deb697.png.cf.jpg') no-repeat center center;background-size:cover;height:200px;position:relative;" bgcolor="#000000"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:400px;height:218px;position:absolute;top:0;left:0;"><v:fill type="frame" color="#000000" src="https://s.yimg.com/vv//api/res/1.2/qmUqLJ4STSX7nCSJ_pVOIg--/YXBwaWQ9bWFpbDtmaT1maWxsO2g9MjAwO3c9NDAw/http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-835a859acf0d378e1d14e88b15e7b4b95211ccd41a2c061b1629cfbbb8deb697.png.cf.jpg"/></v:rect><![endif]--> <table class="yahoo-ignore-table" style="width:100%;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" valign="top"> <tbody><tr> <td background="https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-tile.png" valign="top" style="background:transparent url('https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-tile.png') repeat left top;height:200px;" bgcolor="transparent"> <!--[if gte mso 9]><v:rect fill="true" stroke="false" style="width:400px;height:218px;position:absolute;top:-18px;left:0;"><v:fill type="pattern" color="#000000" src="https://s.yimg.com/nq/storm/assets/enhancrV2/12/overlay-tile.png"/><v:textbox inset="0,0,20px,0"><![endif]--> <table height="185" class="yahoo-ignore-table" style="width:100%;height:185px;min-height:185px;"> <tbody><tr> <td class="card-richInfo2" style="text-align:left;text-align:left;padding:15px 0 0 15px;vertical-align:top;"> </td> <td class="card-actions" style="text-align:right;padding:15px 15px 0 0;vertical-align:top;"> <div class="card-share-container"></div> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> <!--[if gte mso 9]></v:textbox></v:rect><![endif]--> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> <tr> <td> <table align="center" class="card-info yahoo-ignore-table" style="background:#fff;position:relative;z-index:2;width:95%;max-width:380px;border:1px solid #e0e4e9;border-bottom:3px solid #000000;margin-top:-40px;margin-left:auto;margin-right:auto;" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"> <tbody><tr> <td style="background-color:#ffffff;padding:16px 0 16px 12px;vertical-align:top;"> </td> <td style="vertical-align:middle;padding:16px 12px;width:99%;"> <h2 class="card-title" style="font-size: 16px; line-height:19px; margin:0 0 4px 0;font-family:'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;word-break:break-word;">OpenStreetMap | Way: Academia Guardia civil Trafico (38288436)</h2> <div class="card-description" style="font-size:11px;line-height:15px;color:#999;word-break:break-word;">OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use under an open license.</div> </td> <td style="text-align:right;padding:16px 12px 16px 0;"> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> </a></div><div><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3500"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3482"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3550">My reaction is that this is a rare case where I think the original tag still does the bulk of the work. Rather than split into multiple values (raceway, test_track, training_track), I suggest the way to go is to subtag with raceway=*. Raceway is already used a) for some of these other types of track; and b) also applies to motocross and other disciplines. I presume the preponderance of these specialised motor tracks are used for racing of one form or another; and that test tracks are only a small proportion. (I also suspect that driving at speed is often a part of testing and training).</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Cheers,</span></div><div><span><br></span></div><div><span>Jerry</span></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3480"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3472" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3471" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3470" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3469" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3474" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1477420180686_3479"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Richard Welty <rwelty@averillpark.net><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, 20 October 2016, 16:46<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Tagging] test track tagging (vs highway=raceway)<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container"><br>i don't have a particular proposal in mind for this, just looking for input.<br><br>there are various tracks in the world that are not used for racing, but<br>for testing only. major auto manufacturers have their own tracks, and<br>independent organizations do too (for example, the US publication<br>Consumer Reports has converted an old drag racing complex in CT into<br>their own private test facility. likewise i believe there is a small private<br>test facility on the grounds of the old Brooklands oval in the UK.)<br><br>what kind of tagging do folks think is appropriate for these?<br><br>richard<br><br>-- <br><a href="mailto:rwelty@averillpark.net" ymailto="mailto:rwelty@averillpark.net">rwelty@averillpark.net</a><br> Averill Park Networking - GIS & IT Consulting<br> OpenStreetMap - PostgreSQL - Linux<br> Java - Web Applications - Search<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" ymailto="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>