<div dir="ltr">Regardless of whether the service tag is "overused for highways", whatever that means, it is still a tag with a clear meaning and some historical usage. There currently are about 10K uses of service:bicycle:xx in Taginfo (xx=:repairs, :retail, and :pump) so it makes sense to expand this scheme.<div><br></div><div>The tag "sells" is in very limited use at the moment. We had a discussion concerning "sells" on this list a while ago IIRC and it was dealing with supermarkets and what they sell, e.g., sells=eggs, sells=toiletries, etc. Someone was proposing that OSM could include the entire inventory of such shops, which is IMO clearly beyond the scope of our present database usage.<div><br></div><div>As for the question posed by Martin regarding a shop=car with a tag of service=parts, "What does it mean if a shop=car has service=parts attached? Is it selling car parts?" Yes, it means that a car shop selling cars _also_ sells car parts. The Wiki says that if a shop sells only parts, to use the shop=car_parts tag.<br><div><br></div><div>I don't think this present discussion needs to apply to _all_ shops, as Warin suggests, but only to the particular top level tags of shop=car, shop_bicycle, and shop=motorcycle for which some sort of expanded tagging scheme regarding the services they offer would be very welcome.<br><br>I'm not against the "sells" tag but I can't find anything about it in the Wiki and the most used tag in Taginfo is sells:tobacco with 16 instances. All the rest have only one instance. So, how should we proceed?</div><div><br></div><div>Dave</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Nov 1, 2016 at 5:35 AM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Il giorno 31 ott 2016, alle ore 22:01, Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
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<div>The same 'pattern' should be used for all shops. <br>
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<div>like <a class="m_2757902076229642565m_8754604170728382985moz-txt-link-freetext">service:wine=bottles;casks;gob<wbr>lets</a>?</div>
<div><a class="m_2757902076229642565m_8754604170728382985moz-txt-link-freetext">service:harddrives=yes;dealer;<wbr>defragmentation</a>?</div>
<div><a class="m_2757902076229642565m_8754604170728382985moz-txt-link-freetext">service:shoes=high_heels;sanda<wbr>ls;flip_flops;sneakers</a>? Or
<a class="m_2757902076229642565m_8754604170728382985moz-txt-link-freetext">service:shoes:high_heels=repai<wbr>r</a>? <a class="m_2757902076229642565m_8754604170728382985moz-txt-link-freetext">service:shoelaces=dealer</a>?</div>
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Service .. in this instance I would take it as a physical activity
that may include replacement of parts such as ;<br>
maintenance (e.g. regular service of a car - oil change etc) <br>
repair (e.g. replacing a zipper on a jacket)<br>
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Parts .. I would see as a sells thing ... <br>
Most English speakers would never consider 'wine bottle service' ,
that is a selling activity (unless your a glass blower reforming a
broken bottle). <br>
Again this should be common for all shops, and I believe I have had
this discussion on 'sells' here .. only to have it rejected as 'not
for OSM' and 'hard to maintain' etc. <br>
Mappers are tagging this information into the data base .. in any
fashion .. and that leads to a mess. <br>
If this tagging group wants to provide guidance on sensible tagging
then suggest better methods! <br>
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