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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09-Jan-17 10:01 PM, Tom Pfeifer
wrote:<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:ac90825b-b2ff-eace-725a-e803800aecfd@computer.org"
type="cite">On 09.01.2017 01:19, Warin wrote:
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<blockquote type="cite">landuse=grass is for the PRODUCTION of
grass - Grass is grown here,
<br>
harvested (with a little soil) and transported somewhere and
planted.
<br>
Then more grass is grown etc.
<br>
<br>
In the same way landuse=forest is for the Production of things
from the
<br>
tress grown there.
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</blockquote>
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No. landuse=* as being used in OSM is not only for production and
harvesting. You don't harvest residents in landuse=residential, do
you?
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</blockquote>
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Nor is it for landuse=recreation_ground ... and so on.<br>
<br>
However this use of the tag landuse=grass is not consistent with any
other landuse tag. <br>
It at the very least confuses mappers! <br>
<br>
The only 'use' I can think of for grass by the land is that of
production and harvesting. <br>
Anything else is a simple coverage. <br>
The wiki says <br>
<p><i>A tag for a smaller areas of mown and managed </i><i><b>grass</b></i><i>
for example in the middle of a roundabout, verges beside a road
or in the middle of a dual-carriageway. Should not be used where
a more specific tag is available.
</i></p>
<p><i>It is typical that </i><i><tt
style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse"
title="Key:landuse">landuse</a>=<strong class="selflink">grass</strong></tt></i><i>
is misused and should be changed to </i><i><tt
style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landcover"
title="Key:landcover" class="mw-redirect">landcover</a>=<a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landcover%3Dgrass"
title="Tag:landcover=grass">grass</a></tt></i><i> (for
example: patches of grass between tracks in railway corridor -
area that should be tagged with </i><i><tt
style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:landuse"
title="Key:landuse">landuse</a>=<a
href="http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Drailway"
title="Tag:landuse=railway">railway</a></tt></i><i>).</i></p>
<p><i><br>
</i></p>
<p>So a patch of grass beside a road has a different tag than the
same patch of grass beside a railway! <br>
</p>
<p>What happens when the patch of grass has a highway on one side
and a railway on the other ? Ridiculous!!! <br>
</p>
<p>Both should be tagged the same way. And the tagging should be
logical. <br>
</p>
<p>The truth is these grassed areas beside a road or on a median are
used by the road to provide safety - they are landuse=highway. <br>
</p>
<p>In some places these areas are not grass beside the road but
concrete.. they are still landuse=highway ...but have a different
covering. <br>
</p>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:ac90825b-b2ff-eace-725a-e803800aecfd@computer.org"
type="cite">On 09.01.2017 10:28, Volker Schmidt wrote:
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> Please remember that the wiki is intended to document what
the common
<br>
> use is, not what the common use should be.
<br>
> If you want to change the common use please use the available
discussion
<br>
> channels before changing the wiki.
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Absolutely. The tag is used over 2 Million times already for a
different purpose than you propose here. Do you even know,
personally, a place where rolled sods are harvested?
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</blockquote>
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There are areas near me that are used to produce grass, and there
are areas that produce grass in other parts of the world ...
including the UK, USA etc. <br>
However I have been doing some further thinking on these.<br>
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<blockquote
cite="mid:ac90825b-b2ff-eace-725a-e803800aecfd@computer.org"
type="cite">The wiki page has been reverted. Stop trolling.
<br>
<br>
tom
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</blockquote>
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Not trolling. Raising the discussion, waving the flag ... this tag
is something I trip over every now and then and it really annoys me.
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Where I come across it in my mapping I then to add the tag
landcover=grass ...so both tags are there, in this way it still
renders, but clearly indicates what should be there - and it is not
landuse=grass. <br>
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Breakfast for me. <br>
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