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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The word 'timber' is commonly used by
loggers just before a tree is felled as a warning. While some
only use it for sawn wood, the word has more meanings that can be
used. <br>
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To me 'timber' here is the cut down tree coming out of the forest,
not specific. Wheat coming out of a farmers field is also non
specific, the wheat could be used to make bread, a cake etc. <br>
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In my dictionary there are 10 meaning for 'timber'! A suitable
meaning here could be "a cut down tree". A similar meaning can be
used for 'wheat' under the produce=wheat. <br>
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Humm perhaps a better description on the wiki? "produce=timber
Harvested trees. Further processing can result in sawn wood, wood
chips, paper." Though this misses on the 'lumber' thing, which
could be a source of confusion. <br>
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The difficulty I have<br>
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The stuff that comes out of the forest is, in this case, the dead
tree. Eventually that gets processed into things like paper. I'd
certainly not call paper produce, it is a product.<br>
In some places all the produce is turned in to wood chip for
eventual processing into paper. The same wood chip can be sold as
a garden mulch. <br>
In other places the produce is separated selectively, tuning the
best bits into the most valued products while the lest valued bits
may get turned into fire wood. <br>
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How does a mapper know what the end product will be? By having
'timber' available the mapper can be non specific. As trees take
some time to grow the eventual end product may change as time
passes. <br>
I prefer the non specific 'timber' tag personally. <br>
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If you really think the mapper should refine the produce into
woodchip, paper, etc then possibly use a sub key timber=paper? Is
this desired/usefull? <br>
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On 15-Jan-17 12:16 AM, Dave Swarthout wrote:<br>
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Here's a clarification from an American:
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<div>In U.S. English, timber is a term meaning "standing trees".
It does not indicate or specify any particular end use
although such trees as you would find in a "stand of timber"
are probably destined for lumber. Timber, once cut and sawn
into boards or beams, is then called lumber. Some grades of
timber might be converted to chips or pulp for paper but most
probably lumber will be the end product.</div>
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<div>I have often heard the term "pulpwood" to describe the
fast-growing trees that are grown for paper making. Such
stands of pulpwood would, IMO, generally also be tagged with
landuse=forest as well as produce=pulp (or wood_pulp). For
that matter, stands of timber are often planted that same way,
in rows spaced to maximize the output.</div>
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<div>produce=timber works fine for me</div>
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<div>Best,</div>
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On 13 Jan 2017, at 22:44, Warin <<a
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<div>tag: produce=timber description: Trees harvested
for <b><a moz-do-not-send="true"
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title="wikipedia:Timber" target="_blank">timber</a></b>,
called 'lumber' in north America. Further processing
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<div>wood chips and paper are excluded by timber though,
not? I'm not sure an exclusive produce=timber makes a
lot of sense, typically all parts of a tree are used.
The best wood is used for furniture, veneers, then
construction wood, and finally what remains becomes wood
chips, paper, chipboard or pellets...</div>
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<div>cheers,</div>
<div>Martin </div>
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