<div dir="ltr"><div style="font-size:12.8px">It's not about tastes or individual habilty . It's about "<span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> the aim of</span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><b style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">keeping it simple</b><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">both for data</span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">contributors</i><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">(mappers) and data</span><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> </span><i style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">users" </i></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"> Semicolon works? I don't have any doubt of it but not in ALL the apps and services as subtags don't do in others...but could be implemented. </div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Is not avoiding anything but I did not write this:"</span><span style="font-size:small;color:black;font-family:"linux libertine",georgia,times,serif">When (not) to use multiple values in </span><font color="#000000" face="linux libertine, georgia, times, serif"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multiple_values">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Multiple_values</a></font></div><p style="margin:0.5em 0px;line-height:inherit;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">For better or worse, a mapper's first reaction to MV tags should be to avoid them. This is largely because many data consumers do not handle MV tags well, either because they didn't expect them or because handling them is complicated. As the <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_model" title="Data model" class="gmail-mw-redirect" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">OSM data model</a> doesn't directly support multiple values, they have been tacked-on with various degrees of akwardness."<br></p><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">-About your article:</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><i><br></i></div><div><i><span style="font-size:12.8px">"</span></i><i style="color:rgb(32,32,32);font-size:medium">So what is the conclusion of all this? For mappers I suggest avoiding semicolons where at all possible. If you can, do not use semicolons as special separator characters and do not use them as normal characters either. Often they are not necessary. The over hundred ways tagged with [<tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">name=Route Transcanadienne;Trans Canada Highway</tt>] should have used different <tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">name:fr</tt> and <tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">name:en</tt> tags.</i><p style="font-size:medium;color:rgb(32,32,32);font-family:arial,sans-serif"><i>Mappers should be aware that values with semicolons need to be handled specially by users of the data and many users don’t do that (yet). And even if they interpret them they might understand them in a different way from what you expect. Instead of [<tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">amenity=bank;atm</tt>] you can use [<tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">amenity=bank</tt>] and [<tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">atm=yes</tt>]. Use special tags like <tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">int_ref</tt> to avoid “overloading” <tt style="font-family:consolas,"lucida console",monospace;font-size:14.4px">ref</tt>. </i>"</p></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">-1 is 1 ,1st is 1st , it has meaning by itself (I teach it at the kindergarden school) . Semicolon has the meaning...we want to here in OSM. As a separator there are other characters (| , )so it was "random" (or other reasons I don't know why I admit it.) to choose this or that character.</span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">-About the correct suffixes? read the wiki <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags#Keys_and_values">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags#Keys_and_values</a></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">"The </span><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">key</span><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, therefore, is used to describe a topic, category, or type of feature (e.g., </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Highway" title="Highway" class="gmail-mw-redirect" style="font-style:italic;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">highway</a><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> or </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name" title="Name" class="gmail-mw-redirect" style="font-style:italic;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">name</a><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">). Keys can be qualified with prefixes, infixes, or suffixes (usually, separated with a colon, :), forming super- or sub-categories, or </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace" title="Namespace" style="font-style:italic;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">namespace</a><span style="font-style:italic;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">. Common namespaces are language specification and a </span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Date_namespace" title="Date namespace" class="gmail-mw-redirect" style="font-style:italic;text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">date namespace</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><i> specification for name keys." </i>No semicolon, no blankspace: For subtags in OSM we are using COLON.  </span><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif">You talk about </span><font color="#252525" face="sans-serif" style="font-size:small"><span style="font-size:14px"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Remove_suffixed_name-tags_from_wiki">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Remove_suffixed_name-tags_from_wiki</a>. And I read "</span></font></div><table class="gmail-vcard" dir="ltr" style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;margin:2px 0px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(221,255,221);border:1px solid rgb(170,170,170);padding:5px"><tbody><tr><th style="text-align:left">Tagging:</th><td><tt dir="ltr" style="font-family:monospace,courier;font-size:16.1px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:alt_name_x,_name_x&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-new" title="Key:alt name x, name x (страница не существует)" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">alt_name_x, name_x</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:alt_name_x,_name_x%3D*&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-new" title="Tag:alt name x, name x=* (страница не существует)" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(165,88,88);background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">*</a></tt></td></tr></tbody></table>"<br> My use is with colon, as a subcategory tag.<div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:14px;color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif">-Finnish people also use subtags. </span><font color="#252525" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Finland:Traffic_signs">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Finland:Traffic_signs</a></span></font></div><div><font color="#252525" face="sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14px"><a href="http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=traffic_sign%3A2">http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=traffic_sign%3A2</a></span><br></font><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">-The use about destination sign...is other topic to talk about.OSM was not thinking about traffic signs when established.There are so many kinds and systems in every country (here in Spain we have more than 20 different destination traffic signs, with their specificities and tags.) But ok, you may have reason. I want to learn so help me to map a roundabout sign like this: <a href="https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/6bMYhgICHVBL_H70ZnyPAg">https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/6bMYhgICHVBL_H70ZnyPAg</a> .It will be so useful because we have to map more than 7000 only in Catalonia. And it would be so interesting OSM Lane Visualizer will be able to make this :)</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px">-There are some services who splits...and trashes the information when detects a semicolon. Mapbox streets did it.</div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">"</span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Mapbox_Streets&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_3365654915647095998gmail-new" title="Mapbox Streets (page does not exist)" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(165,88,88);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;background-color:initial;text-decoration:none;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial">Mapbox Streets</a><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> replaces </span><code style="font-size:14px;font-family:monospace,courier;color:black;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);border:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);border-radius:2px;padding:1px 4px">;</code><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> with a spaced em dash (</span><code style="font-size:14px;font-family:monospace,courier;color:black;background-color:rgb(249,249,249);border:1px solid rgb(221,221,221);border-radius:2px;padding:1px 4px"> — </code><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">) in any </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:monospace,courier;font-size:16.1px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name" title="Key:name" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">name</a>=*</tt><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> or </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:monospace,courier;font-size:16.1px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:name" title="Key:name" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">name:*</a>=*</tt><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> tag. For primary keys such as </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:monospace,courier;font-size:16.1px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity" title="Key:amenity" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">amenity</a>=*</tt><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"> or </span><tt dir="ltr" style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:monospace,courier;font-size:16.1px;background-image:initial;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:rgb(238,238,255);white-space:nowrap"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shop" title="Key:shop" target="_blank" style="color:rgb(11,0,128);text-decoration:none;background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;background-color:initial">shop</a>=*</tt><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px">, it considers only the portion up to the first semicolon and drops the rest."</span><br></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="color:rgb(37,37,37);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small">-I'm not talking about abolish semicolon uses. I say subtags are better for separate values with correspondence and follow the scheme one tag - one value. Taginfo treats it as an unique value. It's not possible to guess how many values are with semicolon.</span><br></div></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small">For this reasons I consider it better to use.</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small">Cheers (Salut i senyals)</span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small"><br></span></div><div style="font-size:12.8px"><span style="font-size:small">yopaseopor</span></div></div>