<div dir="ltr">Thanks Ross,<div><br></div><div>It <b>might </b>be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't turn any up.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@4x4falcon.com" target="_blank">info@4x4falcon.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is
talking about:</p>
<p><a class="m_4287829356279234780moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://binged.it/2kN1tfC" target="_blank">https://binged.it/2kN1tfC</a></p>
<p>To all intents it could be a park.</p>
<p>In osm it's at:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>way/370388062#map=17/-38.<wbr>15997/145.20073</a></p>
<p>Cheers</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>Ross</p></font></span><div><div class="h5">
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<div class="m_4287829356279234780moz-cite-prefix">On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that
the pipeline either runs over or through.
<div><br>
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<div>I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think
of a reserve as a larger area, often a park or historic area,
e.g., the Gabo Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the <span style="color:rgb(84,84,84)">Hinchinbrook </span>Lighthouse
Reserve, which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County, Alaska.
There is also this reserve which is related to your
illustration; the huge area known as the National Petroleum
Reserve in Alaska, but I would not want it to be confused with
your tagging targets.</div>
<div><br>
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%<wbr>80%93Alaska</a><br>
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<div>Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-cite-prefix">On
08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Hi Warin,
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">Do you have pictures of such areas
plz ?</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">I don't see anything corresponding
to 'reserve'</div>
<div dir="auto"><br>
</div>
<div dir="auto">All the best</div>
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<br>
</span> Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I
say .. reported on the Australian group. <br>
I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the
'pipeline reserve'. <br>
<br>
Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..<br>
<br>
One line is 1,300 km here
<a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/" target="_blank">https://www.apa.com.au/our-ser<wbr>vices/gas-transmission/east-<wbr>coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipel<wbr>ine/</a><br>
<br>
The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from <a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/" target="_blank">https://www.seagas.com.au/safe<wbr>ty/</a><br>
Photo of their warning sign <a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-co<wbr>ntent/uploads/2014/01/danger.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in
my wanderings, some warning of a restriction in use of
area above the line - thus advising of a restrictive
reserve. <br>
<br>
There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.<br>
Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over
8,500 km. At least some of these will have 'reserves'
evident on the surface. <br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24,
"Warin" <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
a écrit :<br type="attribution">
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<div class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537m_7056716997739119891moz-cite-prefix">That
tags the pipe line itself. <br>
<br>
The request is to tag the area set aside
for a pipe line ... a reserve. <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout
wrote:<br>
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<div dir="ltr">There is already a tagging
structure for pipelines that takes into
account whether it's underground or
overground. See
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<div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/w<wbr>ay/8964252</a>
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<div>for a section of the Trans Alaska
Pipeline. However, the land area
above the pipeline, which is
restricted for casual access
throughout Alaska, has no special
tagging.</div>
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<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8,
2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
<br>
A question came up on the Australian
list that would be more appropriate
here.<br>
<br>
"My local area (and I'm sure many
others) have lots of pipeline
reserves.<br>
<br>
I'm really not sure how to tag
these. They appear to have<br>
<br>
public access for walking at least.
(One local one has a sign<br>
disallowing golf...) Some others
appear to be across private<br>
land, and i'm less interested in
those, I'd really like to<br>
show those ones with public access.<br>
<br>
examples:<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreet<wbr>map.org/way/370388062#map=17/-<wbr>38.15997/145.20073</a><br>
<br>
<br>
I've tagged them as leisure=park
previously, and paths<br>
evident on the ground have
just been tagged highway=path.<br>
<br>
<br>
Any ideas?"<br>
<br>
My comments:<br>
<br>
I note the pipeline is not visible
... I assume underground and the<br>
location is not evident so you
cannot map the pipe line itself.<br>
<br>
As it is a landuse ... ?<br>
I would tag landuse=pipeline<br>
<br>
However ... some pipe lines cross
farms, residential areas ... these
have legal easements through the
associated properties.<br>
And these would be already tagged
with a landuse.<br>
<br>
Humm power lines are mapped ...
should there be similar provision
for other infrastructure?<br>
Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that
can be used for all?<br>
infrastructure=pipeline<br>
infrastructure=sewer<br>
infrastructure=water<br>
infrastructure=phone<br>
<br>
Note it should be used for the area
that is affected by/reserved for the
infrastructure, not just the
infrastructure itself?<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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