<div dir="ltr">Thanks Ross,<div><br></div><div>It <b>might </b>be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper only says source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't turn any up.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross Scanlon <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:info@4x4falcon.com" target="_blank">info@4x4falcon.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>This is the aerial imagery of the area the original poster is
      talking about:</p>
    <p><a class="m_4287829356279234780moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://binged.it/2kN1tfC" target="_blank">https://binged.it/2kN1tfC</a></p>
    <p>To all intents it could be a park.</p>
    <p>In osm it's at:</p>
    <p><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>way/370388062#map=17/-38.<wbr>15997/145.20073</a></p>
    <p>Cheers</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
    <p>Ross</p></font></span><div><div class="h5">
    <p><br>
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    <br>
    <div class="m_4287829356279234780moz-cite-prefix">On 08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Yes, I see now you're asking about the land that
        the pipeline either runs over or through.
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        <div>I would avoid the term reserve, however. I generally think
          of a reserve as a larger area, often a park or historic area,
          e.g., the Gabo Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the <span style="color:rgb(84,84,84)">Hinchinbrook </span>Lighthouse
          Reserve, which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova County, Alaska.
          There is also this reserve which is related to your
          illustration; the huge area known as the National Petroleum
          Reserve in Alaska, but I would not want it to be confused with
          your tagging targets.</div>
        <div><br>
          <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%<wbr>80%93Alaska</a><br>
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        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 3:46 PM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"><span>
                <div class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-cite-prefix">On
                  08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe wrote:<br>
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                <blockquote type="cite">
                  <div dir="auto">Hi Warin,
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">Do you have pictures of such areas
                      plz ?</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">I don't see anything corresponding
                      to 'reserve'</div>
                    <div dir="auto"><br>
                    </div>
                    <div dir="auto">All the best</div>
                  </div>
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                <br>
              </span> Not personally ... and it is a fair way away. As I
              say .. reported on the Australian group. <br>
              I assume there is a sign locally to advise on the
              'pipeline  reserve'. <br>
              <br>
              Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in Australia ..<br>
              <br>
              One line is 1,300 km here
              <a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/" target="_blank">https://www.apa.com.au/our-ser<wbr>vices/gas-transmission/east-<wbr>coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipel<wbr>ine/</a><br>
              <br>
              The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide from <a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/" target="_blank">https://www.seagas.com.au/safe<wbr>ty/</a><br>
              Photo of their warning sign <a class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-co<wbr>ntent/uploads/2014/01/danger.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
              I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre optic lines in
              my wanderings, some warning of a restriction in use of
              area above the line - thus advising of a restrictive
              reserve. <br>
              <br>
              There will be local storm water, potable water lines too.<br>
              Long distant buried communication lines too, a number over
              8,500 km. At least some of these will have 'reserves'
              evident on the surface. <br>
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                <div class="m_4287829356279234780h5">  <br>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">Le 8 févr. 2017 08:24,
                        "Warin" <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
                        a écrit :<br type="attribution">
                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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                            <div class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537m_7056716997739119891moz-cite-prefix">That
                              tags the pipe line itself. <br>
                              <br>
                              The request is to tag the area set aside
                              for a pipe line ... a reserve. <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              <br>
                              On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave Swarthout
                              wrote:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">There is already a tagging
                                structure for pipelines that takes into
                                account whether it's underground or
                                overground. See 
                                <div><br>
                                </div>
                                <div><a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/w<wbr>ay/8964252</a>
                                  <div><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div>for a section of the Trans Alaska
                                    Pipeline. However, the land area
                                    above the pipeline, which is
                                    restricted for casual access
                                    throughout Alaska, has no special
                                    tagging.</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8,
                                  2017 at 7:56 AM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                  wrote:<br>
                                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
                                    <br>
                                    A question came up on the Australian
                                    list that would be more appropriate
                                    here.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    "My local area (and I'm sure many
                                    others) have lots of pipeline
                                    reserves.<br>
                                            <br>
                                    I'm really not sure how to tag
                                    these. They appear to have<br>
                                    <br>
                                    public access for walking at least.
                                    (One local one has a sign<br>
                                    disallowing golf...) Some others
                                    appear to be across private<br>
                                    land, and i'm less interested in
                                    those, I'd really like to<br>
                                    show those ones with public access.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    examples:<a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.openstreet<wbr>map.org/way/370388062#map=17/-<wbr>38.15997/145.20073</a><br>
                                    <br>
                                      <br>
                                    I've tagged them as leisure=park
                                    previously, and paths<br>
                                              evident on the ground have
                                    just been tagged highway=path.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    <br>
                                    Any ideas?"<br>
                                    <br>
                                    My comments:<br>
                                    <br>
                                    I note the pipeline is not visible
                                    ... I assume underground and the<br>
                                    location is not evident so you
                                    cannot map the pipe line itself.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    As it is a landuse ... ?<br>
                                    I would tag landuse=pipeline<br>
                                    <br>
                                    However ... some pipe lines cross
                                    farms, residential areas ...  these
                                    have legal easements through the
                                    associated properties.<br>
                                    And these would be already tagged
                                    with a landuse.<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Humm power lines are mapped ...
                                    should there be similar provision
                                    for other infrastructure?<br>
                                    Perhaps a 'infrastructure' tag that
                                    can be used for all?<br>
                                    infrastructure=pipeline<br>
                                    infrastructure=sewer<br>
                                    infrastructure=water<br>
                                    infrastructure=phone<br>
                                    <br>
                                    Note it should be used for the area
                                    that is affected by/reserved for the
                                    infrastructure, not just the
                                    infrastructure itself?<br>
                                       <br>
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