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    Agree Dave.<br>
    <br>
    As I said it could be a park but without on the ground survey or
    other info it's unknown.<br>
    <br>
    These are quite often parks and should be tagged as leisure=park but
    onwards from that is the reason it is a park.<br>
    <br>
    In these situations the park could also be a reserve or easement for
    the pipe line.<br>
    <br>
    The discussion on talk_au was that it could be tagged leisure=park
    park=pipeline_reserve.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers<br>
    Ross<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/02/17 22:02, Dave Swarthout
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAKWFYhUegqEqtVFcthYkEmRNZ24RcMfb845tqymNTMx0EWfJMQ@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Thanks Ross,
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>It <b>might </b>be a park but we can't be sure. The mapper
          only says source=Bing. For all we know he's merely making an
          educated guess. His changeset comment suggests he has also
          added some "pipeline reserves" although a quick look doesn't
          turn any up.</div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ross
          Scanlon <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:info@4x4falcon.com" target="_blank">info@4x4falcon.com</a>></span>
          wrote:<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
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              <p>This is the aerial imagery of the area the original
                poster is talking about:</p>
              <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                  class="m_4287829356279234780moz-txt-link-freetext"
                  href="https://binged.it/2kN1tfC" target="_blank">https://binged.it/2kN1tfC</a></p>
              <p>To all intents it could be a park.</p>
              <p>In osm it's at:</p>
              <p><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073"
                  target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>way/370388062#map=17/-38.<wbr>15997/145.20073</a></p>
              <p>Cheers</p>
              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
                  <p>Ross</p>
                </font></span>
              <div>
                <div class="h5">
                  <p><br>
                  </p>
                  <br>
                  <div class="m_4287829356279234780moz-cite-prefix">On
                    08/02/17 19:51, Dave Swarthout wrote:<br>
                  </div>
                  <blockquote type="cite">
                    <div dir="ltr">Yes, I see now you're asking about
                      the land that the pipeline either runs over or
                      through.
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>I would avoid the term reserve, however. I
                        generally think of a reserve as a larger area,
                        often a park or historic area, e.g., the Gabo
                        Island Lighthouse Reserve in Canada or the <span
                          style="color:rgb(84,84,84)">Hinchinbrook </span>Lighthouse
                        Reserve, which is a Park in Valdez-Cordova
                        County, Alaska. There is also this reserve which
                        is related to your illustration; the huge area
                        known as the National Petroleum Reserve in
                        Alaska, but I would not want it to be confused
                        with your tagging targets.</div>
                      <div><br>
                        <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%80%93Alaska"
                          target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>National_Petroleum_Reserve%E2%<wbr>80%93Alaska</a><br>
                      </div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                      <div>Maybe landuse=pipeline would be a good pick?</div>
                    </div>
                    <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                      <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at
                        3:46 PM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a
                            moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
                            target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
                        wrote:<br>
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                              <div
                                class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-cite-prefix">On
                                08-Feb-17 06:51 PM, François Lacombe
                                wrote:<br>
                              </div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div dir="auto">Hi Warin,
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">Do you have pictures
                                    of such areas plz ?</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">I don't see anything
                                    corresponding to 'reserve'</div>
                                  <div dir="auto"><br>
                                  </div>
                                  <div dir="auto">All the best</div>
                                </div>
                              </blockquote>
                              <br>
                            </span> Not personally ... and it is a fair
                            way away. As I say .. reported on the
                            Australian group. <br>
                            I assume there is a sign locally to advise
                            on the 'pipeline  reserve'. <br>
                            <br>
                            Gas pipe lines cover fair distances in
                            Australia ..<br>
                            <br>
                            One line is 1,300 km here <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://www.apa.com.au/our-services/gas-transmission/east-coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipeline/"
                              target="_blank">https://www.apa.com.au/our-ser<wbr>vices/gas-transmission/east-<wbr>coast-grid/moomba-sydney-pipel<wbr>ine/</a><br>
                            <br>
                            The reserve might be up to 25 meters wide
                            from <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext"
                              href="https://www.seagas.com.au/safety/"
                              target="_blank">https://www.seagas.com.au/safe<wbr>ty/</a><br>
                            Photo of their warning sign <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/danger.jpg"
                              target="_blank">http://www.seagas.com.au/wp-co<wbr>ntent/uploads/2014/01/danger.<wbr>jpg</a><br>
                            I have seen similar signs for gas and fibre
                            optic lines in my wanderings, some warning
                            of a restriction in use of area above the
                            line - thus advising of a restrictive
                            reserve. <br>
                            <br>
                            There will be local storm water, potable
                            water lines too.<br>
                            Long distant buried communication lines too,
                            a number over 8,500 km. At least some of
                            these will have 'reserves' evident on the
                            surface. <br>
                            <div>
                              <div class="m_4287829356279234780h5">  <br>
                                <blockquote type="cite">
                                  <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                    <div class="gmail_quote">Le 8 févr.
                                      2017 08:24, "Warin" <<a
                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                                        href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>>
                                      a écrit :<br type="attribution">
                                      <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                        style="margin:0 0 0
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                                        <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF"
                                          text="#000000">
                                          <div
class="m_4287829356279234780m_-1099272496490750537m_7056716997739119891moz-cite-prefix">That
                                            tags the pipe line itself. <br>
                                            <br>
                                            The request is to tag the
                                            area set aside for a pipe
                                            line ... a reserve. <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            <br>
                                            On 08-Feb-17 04:38 PM, Dave
                                            Swarthout wrote:<br>
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                                          <blockquote type="cite">
                                            <div dir="ltr">There is
                                              already a tagging
                                              structure for pipelines
                                              that takes into account
                                              whether it's underground
                                              or overground. See 
                                              <div><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div><a
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/8964252" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/w<wbr>ay/8964252</a>
                                                <div><br>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>for a section of
                                                  the Trans Alaska
                                                  Pipeline. However, the
                                                  land area above the
                                                  pipeline, which is
                                                  restricted for casual
                                                  access throughout
                                                  Alaska, has no special
                                                  tagging.</div>
                                              </div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">On
                                                Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 7:56
                                                AM, Warin <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                                wrote:<br>
                                                <blockquote
                                                  class="gmail_quote"
                                                  style="margin:0 0 0
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                                                  #ccc
                                                  solid;padding-left:1ex">Hi,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  A question came up on
                                                  the Australian list
                                                  that would be more
                                                  appropriate here.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  "My local area (and
                                                  I'm sure many others)
                                                  have lots of pipeline
                                                  reserves.<br>
                                                          <br>
                                                  I'm really not sure
                                                  how to tag these. They
                                                  appear to have<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  public access for
                                                  walking at least. (One
                                                  local one has a sign<br>
                                                  disallowing golf...)
                                                  Some others appear to
                                                  be across private<br>
                                                  land, and i'm less
                                                  interested in those,
                                                  I'd really like to<br>
                                                  show those ones with
                                                  public access.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  examples:<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/370388062#map=17/-38.15997/145.20073"
                                                    rel="noreferrer"
                                                    target="_blank">http://www.openstreet<wbr>map.org/way/370388062#map=17/-<wbr>38.15997/145.20073</a><br>
                                                  <br>
                                                    <br>
                                                  I've tagged them as
                                                  leisure=park
                                                  previously, and paths<br>
                                                            evident on
                                                  the ground have just
                                                  been tagged
                                                  highway=path.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Any ideas?"<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  My comments:<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  I note the pipeline is
                                                  not visible ... I
                                                  assume underground and
                                                  the<br>
                                                  location is not
                                                  evident so you cannot
                                                  map the pipe line
                                                  itself.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  As it is a landuse ...
                                                  ?<br>
                                                  I would tag
                                                  landuse=pipeline<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  However ... some pipe
                                                  lines cross farms,
                                                  residential areas ... 
                                                  these have legal
                                                  easements through the
                                                  associated properties.<br>
                                                  And these would be
                                                  already tagged with a
                                                  landuse.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Humm power lines are
                                                  mapped ... should
                                                  there be similar
                                                  provision for other
                                                  infrastructure?<br>
                                                  Perhaps a
                                                  'infrastructure' tag
                                                  that can be used for
                                                  all?<br>
infrastructure=pipeline<br>
                                                  infrastructure=sewer<br>
                                                  infrastructure=water<br>
                                                  infrastructure=phone<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Note it should be used
                                                  for the area that is
                                                  affected by/reserved
                                                  for the
                                                  infrastructure, not
                                                  just the
                                                  infrastructure itself?<br>
                                                     <br>
                                                          <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  <br>
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                                                <div dir="ltr">Dave
                                                  Swarthout<br>
                                                  Homer, Alaska<br>
                                                  Chiang Mai, Thailand<br>
                                                  Travel Blog at <a
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href="http://dswarthout.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://dswarthout.blogspot.com</a></div>
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Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
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Homer, Alaska
Chiang Mai, Thailand
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