<html><head></head><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17654">Just re-read the section in the BCTV handbook and the form they describe under "dead hedging" is rather different from the straightforward brash pile. Both exist, although in my experience the latter is commoner, but I don't do conservation work in woodland suffering from too much grazing by deer.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17746"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17748">Note also the use of cut thorny shrubs to create protective barriers in African villages.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17839"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17841">Either way I would still strongly advise avoiding "dead hedge" as it is not a term which is likely to be widely understood, and will clearly be mis-understood In construction these are closest to wattle fences, although the construction material which is interwoven is wood brash rather than nice coppice poles.</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18097"><br></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18099">Jerry</div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18061"><br><br></div><div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17604" style="display: block;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17603" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 14px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17602" style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17601" dir="ltr"> <font id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17611" face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18101"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Jerry Clough - OSM <sk53_osm@yahoo.co.uk><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <tagging@openstreetmap.org> <br> <b id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18104"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_18103" style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 20 February 2017, 14:18<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge<br> </font> </div> <div class="y_msg_container" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17606"><br><div id="yiv4376331502"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17910"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_17909" style="color:#000;background-color:#fff;font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;"><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11909" dir="ltr">I've many such things: the material is called brash (sometimes brush) in the UK. It is often just collected in piles or in longer rows (typically at the edge of the area being worked on) and these are usually referred to as brash piles.</div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12068" dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12070" dir="ltr">Brash is also used to deliberately fill gaps to discourage people (& their dogs) from accessing places.</div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12072" dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12075" dir="ltr">Dead hedge is just not a term that I recognise: it certainly isn't standard British English in the conservation sector. Some hedgelaying techniques of interweaving can be used, but these are in the main to reduce the size & profile of the pile. When used as a barrier brash is usually used to plug small gaps rather than to create a continuous barrier. Note that sometimes brash is simply not cleared after chainsaw or brush-cutting and this may appear to a deliberate rather than a transient & accidental barrier.</div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12211" dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12213" dir="ltr">I would therefore suggest barrier=brash_pile or brush_pile, and despite Wikipedia not dead hedge. Like every other native English speaker on this list dead hedge means a hedge where the plants have died.</div><div dir="ltr"><br clear="none"></div><div dir="ltr">Jerry</div><div class="yiv4376331502qtdSeparateBR" id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11910"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv4376331502yqt7182249409" id="yiv4376331502yqt87302"><div class="yiv4376331502yahoo_quoted" id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11887" style="display:block;"> <div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11886" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:14px;"> <div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11885" style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, Sans-Serif;font-size:16px;"> <div id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_11884" dir="ltr"> <font id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12254" face="Arial" size="2"> </font><hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Andy Townsend <ajt1047@gmail.com><br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> tagging@openstreetmap.org <br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, 13 February 2017, 21:02<br clear="none"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Tagging] Dead hedge<br clear="none"> </div> <div class="yiv4376331502y_msg_container" id="yiv4376331502yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1487596780194_12256"><br clear="none">On 13/02/2017 20:46, Chris Hill wrote:<br clear="none">><br clear="none">> It's a fence.<br clear="none">><br clear="none"><br clear="none">+1 to that.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Despite both of the refs on <a href="https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_hedge" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_hedge </a><br clear="none">being English ones, it's not an English term I recognise at all, and it <br clear="none">could have been designed to confuse.<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Cheers,<br clear="none"><br clear="none">Andy<div class="yiv4376331502yqt9386927481" id="yiv4376331502yqtfd80873"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"><br clear="none">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">Tagging mailing list<br clear="none"><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br clear="none"><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank" rel="nofollow" shape="rect">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><br clear="none"></div><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></div></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></body></html>