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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>I slightly modified your statement on highway=path and I think it’s fine.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Just to clarify: there is no discussion about access=designated tag.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>It is clear that this tag makes no sense.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>The problem is that the page about access tag itself is used to define the values usable for all tags from access family.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>So if you look up the definition for foot=* or horse=</span><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>*or bicycle=* then you see that you are redirected to the access=* page for their values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>And there you would see that the value designated is deprecated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Which is simply not true fot those keys.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>This will create a confusion IMHO and I think that the previous version was OK. But it seems to be very hard to convince someone to think about it this way.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Dalibor (chrabros)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Dave Swarthout [mailto:daveswarthout@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:00 AM<br><b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Oops, I just went to the highway=path page for another reason and saw Verdy_p's NOTE about access=designated, then went back and edit the highway=path page to make it more consistent. I forgot this discussion was on going and tried to clarify that referring page.<br><br>So, what is the consensus about the tag=value: access=designated"<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I can undo my edits easily.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 4:33 PM, Andrew Hain <<a href="mailto:andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk" target="_blank">andrewhainosm@hotmail.co.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Is anyone willing to step forwards to mentor him in the hope of him becoming a constructive contributor?<br>--<br>Andrew <o:p></o:p></p><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="m_3215393462734202767x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'> Andy Townsend <<a href="mailto:ajt1047@gmail.com" target="_blank">ajt1047@gmail.com</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> 10 March 2017 20:29:05<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Undiscussed changes for wki pages about access mode "designated".</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>On 10/03/2017 19:36, Yves wrote:<br>> Not saying it's not useful, but at least self-moderation should be <br>> considered.<br><br>I'll try and be tactful here - let's just say that that approach has <br>been suggested :)<br><br>Best Regards,<br><br>Andy<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>-- <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dave Swarthout<br>Homer, Alaska<br>Chiang Mai, Thailand<br>Travel Blog at <a href="http://dswarthout.blogspot.com" target="_blank">http://dswarthout.blogspot.com</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>