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    <p>Hi André,</p>
    <p>according to this documentation, <br>
      the tagging mailing list is the wrong platform to address this  :<br>
      <font size="-1">"<b>If you have ideas for the wiki, you can
          generally just do them, by editing the wiki! </b><br>
        If you need any assistance the <b>wikiteam</b> are here to
        help."<br>
        <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki#Wikiteam">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wiki#Wikiteam</a></font><br>
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    Unless some always ask for a proposal to edit /amend anything in the
    wiki.<br>
    IMHO this leads to the result you mentioned :<br>
    "Unfortunately, I'm very sorry to say, OSM is often much of a
    chaos."<br>
    There seem to be very few people which first like to request a
    request form <br>
    to be able to help the community to improve *.<br>
    <br>
    A "code of conduct"** would be helpful in which cases <br>
    you may just add a minor specification, unfortunately I couldn't
    find such up to now.<br>
    <br>
    Cheers,<br>
    Thilo<br>
    <br>
    <font size="-1">* For those who don't know the concept of sarcasm :<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm</a><br>
      <br>
      ** Certainly this will also leave some (border) cases which are
      disputable,<br>
      but at least there would be SOME agreed guideline.<br>
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Code_of_conduct</a></font><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 10.05.2017 um 15:10 schrieb André
      Pirard:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi,<br>
        <br>
        In this thread, I said, in agreement with others,<br>
        that <tt style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway:bicycle"
            title="Key:oneway:bicycle" class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</a>=no</tt>
        (click to open that page) is the tag to be used <b>to tell
          routing software</b><b> (GPS)</b> that <tt
          style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><a
            moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:oneway"><strong
              class="selflink">oneway</strong>=yes</a></tt><span
          style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap"> does not apply to
          bicycles<br>
          that </span><tt style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap"
          dir="ltr"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway"
            title="Key:cycleway">cycleway</a>=opposite*</tt> has noting
        to do with routing and contraflow but indicates that <b>there
          is a cycleway</b> that <b>happens</b> to be "opposite".<br>
        <br>
        Could you please make the wiki documentation more clear about
        that?<br>
        Because mappers often believe that <tt>cycleway=opposite</tt>
        means to indicate bicycle contraflow <tt
          style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><span
            class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt>.<br>
        Unfortunately, sometimes contradictory sentences about the same
        concept are often spread all over the wiki.<br>
        Find them all!<br>
        <br>
        I have written <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://overpass-turbo.eu/?Q=%0A%5Bout%3Ajson%5D%5Btimeout%3A60%5D%3B%0A%2F%2F%20gather%20results%0A%28%0A%20%20%2F%2F%20query%20%0A%20way%5B%21%22oneway%3Abicycle%22%5D%5Bcycleway%7E%22opposite%22%5D%28%7B%7Bbbox%7D%7D%29%3B%0A%20%20%0A%29%3B%0A%2F%2F%20print%20results%0Aout%20body%3B%0A%3E%3B%0Aout%20skel%20qt%3B%0A%0A">this
          script</a> to find where many <tt>cycleway=opposite*</tt>
        exist without <tt style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap"
          dir="ltr"><span class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt>
        and even without <tt>oneway=yes</tt>.<br>
        <br>
        <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/55150670"
          moz-do-not-send="true">Look at this street</a> to which GRi
        added <tt>cycleway=opposite</tt> without <tt
          style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><span
            class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt>, to which
        JanFi added <tt style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap"
          dir="ltr"><span class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt> 
        probably after reading this thread (thank you!) and from which I
        removed <tt>cycleway=opposite</tt> because there is no cycleway
        at all.<br>
        <br>
        The worst of all is that the map <a
          class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
          href="http://mijndev.openstreetmap.nl/%7Eligfietser/fiets/"
          moz-do-not-send="true">http://mijndev.openstreetmap.nl/%7Eligfietser/fiets/</a>
        shows "<tt>cycleway=opposite or </tt><tt
          style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap" dir="ltr"><span
            class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt>" ways,
        hence neither identifying the cycleways  nor the contraflow
        correctly and not testing in its bugs tag that <tt>cycleway=opposite</tt>
        must contain <tt style="background:#EEF;white-space:nowrap"
          dir="ltr"><span class="mw-redirect">oneway:bicycle</span>=no</tt>.<br>
        That is pitiful complete misinformation and the author did not
        even reply to my message.<br>
        <br>
        Unfortunately, I'm very sorry to say, OSM is often much of a
        chaos.<br>
        <br>
        Hoping this will help,<br>
        Cheers <br>
        <br>
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      <pre wrap="">_______________________________________________
Tagging mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a>
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