<div dir="ltr">Hi Phil,<div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div>The main issue with stop positions is that they cannot be associated with a route, the position will depend on which platform the train is routed through and the length of the train. The best OSM can do is route to the station and then its look at, or wait for, the information boards.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sure I agree. Though somehow the route needs to have a (logical) stop position, <span style="font-size:12.8px">node (as stop): "The order of the members in the relation should be identical to the order in the timetable." Do you agree? </span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">But yes - what do you do if a rain route goes through a station, where the rails temporarily split into several tracks? Where is the stop position for that route? Clearly in that case stop_positions on the route cannot be associated with platforms in the station, and full routing is not possible.</span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">While it's not possible in general, for some stations (e.g. tube stations), clearly stop_positions could be associated with platforms.</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="font-size:12.8px">Bjoern </span></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span class="gmail-"><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite">
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<p>On 2017-05-10 18:59, Bjoern Hassler wrote:</p>
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<div dir="ltr"><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">Hello again,</span>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">In an <span style="font-family:sans-serif"> </span><a class="gmail-m_-1476349441477621432extiw" style="background-image:none;background-position:initial;background-size:initial;background-repeat:initial;background-origin:initial;background-clip:initial;text-decoration-line:none;font-family:sans-serif" title="osm:relation:route" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/relation:route" target="_blank">osm:relation:route</a><span style="font-family:sans-serif"> (type=<wbr>route, route=train/...), you have both platforms and stop positions. How is a particular platform associated with a stop that serves it?</span></span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">E.g. for public transport routing, you'd walk (highway=footway) to a platform (</span></span><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif">public_transport=platform), at which point you'd change to a train stopping at a stop (public_transport=stop_<wbr>position). How would the routing algorithm know that the platform is associated with the stop? </span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif">Is there an existing mechanism or convention, e.g. a tag on the platform that indicates the stop, or both tagged with the same name or similar?</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif">Thanks!</span></div>
<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif">Bjoern</span></div>
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<div><span style="color:rgb(0,0,0);font-family:sans-serif">PS I've noticed that sometimes the stop position is at the far end of a platform (i.e. the two stop positions are at opposite ends of the station). Maybe that's so that an association can be made?</span></div>
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