<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>This proposal sounds good, and I've got questions or comments<br></div><br>fire_hydrant: namespace is too restrictive regarding fire_hydrant:water_source<br></div>Can't we just use water_source instead? Many other devices using water can take benefit from this.<br><br></div>What is the difference between in_service=no and disused=yes ?<br></div><br></div>:type subkeys aren't so great, and fire_hydrant:coupling:type can only be fire_hydrant:coupling (or fire_hydrant:coupling_type to get more verbosity as said above)<br></div><div>The same for fire_hydrant:type, can't we use fire_hydrant only to give the delivery mechanism ?<br></div><div>The water supply part goes into water_source=*.<br></div><div><br></div><div>fire_hydrant:position also exists and it's definitely not a concept specific to fire hydrants.<br>position=* or at least location=* can be used.<br><br></div><div><div><div><div>I would agree it's a lot about semantics, but that's important questions to prevent errors or ease adoption of proposed keys IMHO.<br><br><br></div><div>All the best<br></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b>François Lacombe</b><br><br>fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com<br><a href="http://www.infos-reseaux.com" target="_blank">www.infos-reseaux.com</a><br><a href="http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux" target="_blank">@InfosReseaux</a></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-06-18 9:33 GMT+02:00 Robert Koch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:robert.koch@loggia.at" target="_blank">robert.koch@loggia.at</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <p>Okay, I got the difference between the pillar hydrants. What
      about dry-hydrants where you need to pump water out of a
      river/pond. There is not a shutoff in the center of the bonnet.</p>
    <p>Formerly this [1] would have been:</p>
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      </p><blockquote type="cite">fire_hydrant:type=pond<br>
        fire_hydrant:pressure=suction</blockquote>
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    <p>WIth the new proposal this would be then:</p>
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      </p><blockquote type="cite">fire_hydrant:type=pipe<br>
        fire_hydrant:pressure=suction</blockquote>
      Is this right? In German one would translate pipe as "Ansaugrohr".<br>
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    <p>[1]
<a class="m_7278683817042727771moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/Dry_hydrant.jpg/150px-Dry_hydrant.jpg" target="_blank">https://upload.wikimedia.org/<wbr>wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/62/<wbr>Dry_hydrant.jpg/150px-Dry_<wbr>hydrant.jpg</a>
      taken from [2]<br>
      [2]
      <a class="m_7278683817042727771moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfire_hydrant#Types" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dfire_<wbr>hydrant#Types</a><br>
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    <div class="m_7278683817042727771moz-cite-prefix">On 2017-06-17 21:51, Kevin Kenny wrote:<br>
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            <div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 17, 2017 2:30 PM, "Robert
              Koch" <<a href="mailto:robert.koch@loggia.at" target="_blank">robert.koch@loggia.at</a>>
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                Moreover how useful is "pillar" if there is "dry_barrel"
                and<br>
                "wet_barrel"? How would non-fire-fighters or non-local
                fire-fighters tag<br>
                such pillar hydrants?<br>
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        <div dir="auto">"Pillar" is "I don't know which." There are a
          few hydrants near me that have a different appearance from our
          usual dry barrel design and carry signs warning that they must
          be pumped out after use.  I tagged them "pillar" because I
          honestly don't know what they are.</div>
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        <div dir="auto">Around the US, virtually universally, wet
          barrels have individual shutoff valves for each coupling while
          dry barrels have a single shutoff in the center of the bonnet.
          You have to get pretty far south for wet barrels to be
          practicable, since they'd burst in a hard winter. </div>
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