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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Am 14.07.2017 um 14:32 schrieb Martin
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            <div class="gmail_quote">2017-07-14 10:16 GMT+02:00 Tobias
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                  Have a look at this place "Siesel": <a
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                  The hamlet is called Siesel and officially all the
                  streets there do not have a name (you can check on the
                  "NRW-Atlas: ALKIS" layer  that all streets are just
                  designated "Weg" i. e. "Street"). From an official
                  address point of view all houses there should have
                  addr:place=Siesel and addr:housenumber=nn.</div>
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              <div>is "nn" meant to be literally the string "nn"? (btw:
                NN in German usage is a placeholder referring to
                people). In Italy, quite frequently in the countryside,
                there is the abbreviation "snc" to say "no housenumber",
                but I wouldn't add this in addr:housenumber as it's not
                a housenumber (you can find it in official lists in the
                housenumber field though).<br>
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    Na. "nn" is meant to be a placeholder for the actual number: 12, 13,
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                <div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> On the ground,
                  tough, they have put up the usual German street name
                  signs all showing "Siesel". So from an on the ground
                  point of view all houses there should have
                  addr:street=Siesel and addr:housenumber=nn. What to do
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                 it's by definition we refuse to have both tags, as
                addr:place is defined for places without streetnames</div>
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    Well that's the question here, isn't it? Is it by definition or not?<br>
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    Tobi<br>
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