<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br><br>sent from a phone</div><div><br>On 21. Jul 2017, at 03:19, Nelson A. de Oliveira <<a href="mailto:naoliv@gmail.com">naoliv@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Complementing, why not just use ownership</span><br><span><span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ownership">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:ownership</a></span>, operator</span><br><span><span><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator</a></span> or something else,</span><br><span>instead using a tag created for borders?</span><br></div></blockquote><br><div><br></div><div>admittedly there is not much documentation in the wiki, there isn't even a key page, only a redirect to boundary=administrative with this paragraph:</div><div><br></div><div>"<font face="UICTFontTextStyleBody"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:admin_level" class="mw-redirect" title="Key:admin level" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">admin_level</a></bdi>=<bdi>1 to 10</bdi></tt> has been introduced in order that different borders can be rendered consistently among countries (doing this based on border_type would require knowledge of their hierarchy in each country).</span></font></div><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Besides administrative boundaries, the <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:admin_level" class="mw-redirect" title="Key:admin level" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">admin_level</a></bdi>=*</tt> tag may also be used on features tagged with <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:government" title="Key:government" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">government</a></bdi>=*</tt>. The <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:admin_level" class="mw-redirect" title="Key:admin level" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">admin_level</a></bdi>=*</tt>values described below also apply to the <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:capital" title="Key:capital" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">capital</a></bdi>=*</tt> and <tt dir="ltr" class="mw-content-ltr" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline;"><bdi><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:heritage" title="Key:heritage" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px; border: 0px; font-style: inherit; font-variant-caps: inherit; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none; text-decoration: none;">heritage</a></bdi>=*</tt> tags."</span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">—__</span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">I propose something much more explicit like "admin_level describes the administrative level of an object within a government hierarchy. A lower level means higher in the hierarchy. This tag is used for the borders of territorial political entities (e.g. country, state, municipality) together with boundary=administrative. Due to cultural political differences, admin levels of different countries only correspond approximately to each other." </span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">as a first paragraph.</span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Objections or additions?</span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Cheers,</span></p><p style="margin: 0.5em 0px 1em; padding: 0px; border: 0px; line-height: inherit; vertical-align: baseline; background-image: none;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Martin </span></p></body></html>