<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><br class=""><div>Hi Martin,</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class="">these are usually not mapped if the period they exist at a certain place is very short, although there have been exceptions like the burning man festival or xmas markets.</div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>I think our real case is more like - there are fishermans in Philippines that will construct the temporary buildings for cargo’s or storages from some materials like bamboo, not 100% about the exact usecase here,</div><div>and government wants to include them in their capacity building analysis to estimate the region vulnerability to natural disasters.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class="">I believe there isn't a specific property defined for this, but you can infer it mostly from the building value (if tagging is specific here).(e.g. trailer house)</div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>I think we can infer it like was mentioned in the previous comments by mark as combining temporary=yes and temporary:date_off=never. Am I right?</div><div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><div class="">first I have to excuse, there was a typo in my tags, it should have been a colon. Looking at the common values: <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building:levels:underground#values" class="">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building:levels:underground#values</a></div><div class="">I'd say "yes" is not a common value for building:levels:underground, although there are 7 occurrences.</div><div class="">Generally, the wiki together with taginfo are good places to verify suitability and <span class="" style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">common practice</span> of tags.</div></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Got it, will use it further as a guideline, and double-check with you guys if there is some ambiguity.</div><div><br class=""></div><div>Best,</div><div>Taras.</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">Begin forwarded message:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Martin Koppenhoefer <<a href="mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com" class="">dieterdreist@gmail.com</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [Tagging] Recommendation for building tags</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">27 July 2017 at 9:07:09 PM GMT+8<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" class="">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Reply-To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">"Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" class="">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><div class=""><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8" class=""><div dir="auto" class=""><div class=""><br class=""><br class="">sent from a phone</div><div class=""><br class="">On 27. Jul 2017, at 08:52, Vozniuk Taras <<a href="mailto:taras.vozniuk@geothings.tw" class="">taras.vozniuk@geothings.tw</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><b class="">1. <span class="">Whether the building is permanent or not.</span></b></div><div class=""><b class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></b></div><div class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="" preoffsettop="178"><div dir="auto" class="">what are your definitions for semipermanent and non-permanent?</div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div class="">So non-permanent is a building structure constructed for a defined short period of time. Like Circus tent for example. It stays there for a defined 1 month. </div><div class="">I can also imagine temporary warehouses / tents during the harvest period at countryside-marketplaces or movable markets, though I cannot really give a good real-life example.</div><div class="">Something like this: <a href="https://goo.gl/images/nMf3gQ" class="">https://goo.gl/images/nMf3gQ</a></div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>these are usually not mapped if the period they exist at a certain place is very short, although there have been exceptions like the burning man festival or xmas markets.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Semi-permanent are constructions that are technically non-permanent but stay there for an indefinite amount of time. Something like we have a trailer house that just stays there and it’s not intended to be moved anytime in future.</div></div></blockquote><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div>I believe there isn't a specific property defined for this, but you can infer it mostly from the building value (if tagging is specific here).(e.g. trailer house)</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">2. <b class="">Whether the building is permanent or not.</b></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So do you think it a good idea to map existence of basement of the building by <b class="">building_levels:underground = yes</b></div></blockquote><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">first I have to excuse, there was a typo in my tags, it should have been a colon. Looking at the common values: <a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building:levels:underground#values" class="">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building:levels:underground#values</a></div><div class="">I'd say "yes" is not a common value for building:levels:underground, although there are 7 occurrences.</div><div class="">Generally, the wiki together with taginfo are good places to verify suitability and <span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);" class="">common practice</span> of tags.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Cheers,</div><div class="">Martin</div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Tagging mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" class="">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br class="">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>