<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div><br><br>sent from a phone</div><div><br>On 26. Aug 2017, at 11:15, Simon Poole <<a href="mailto:simon@poole.ch">simon@poole.ch</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>the question turned up if shop=fashion (with 5000 something uses) </span><br><span>should not be deprecated (==not offered for new use) due to overlap with</span><br><span>shop=boutique (~11'000 uses) and shop=clothes, clothes=fashion (not</span><br><span>particularly popular with roughly 200 uses). It just doesn't seem to</span><br><span>have a good definition, which is already pointed out on the wiki page</span><br><span>(but without a conclusion).</span></div></blockquote><br><div><br></div><div>I'd see shop=fashion similar with shop=boutique, while shop=clothes is not particularly helpful if you're looking to buy clothes (too generic). I'd roughly see it like this: boutique expensive, fashion cheap(er), department store both, supermarket cheap ;-)</div><div><br></div><div>What would I search for if I wanted to buy a suit or a shirt (department shops apart which will sell you anything)? Maybe a "boutique for men"? To buy gloves I'd try with a shop=bags? Or shop=leather? Or shop=sports? Or an outdoor shop? There are many places to buy clothes, cheap, casual, formal, according to the material, for work, gender, age, style, one brand/designer or multiple, or no (known) designer, discounter, different types of clothing (underwear, shirts, etc.</div><div>I'm rather against reduction of top level shop types, there's IMHO a clear distinction between fashion shops and boutiques, with maybe some edge cases, but still useful overall. Nonetheless I agree that shop=clothes does require subtags to be more useful, but the current situation in the clothes key is not working:</div><div><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values</a></div><div>There are many orthogonal, specific properties tagged, e.g. target group (women, men, children, babies), for specific occasions/uses (sports/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur), type (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new category in this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really significant).</div><div><br></div><div>cheers,</div><div>Martin </div></body></html>