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    <p>There is already disambiguation within the shop=clothes object
      with over 10'000 uses of the clothes tag. and I'm not quite sure
      were your stipulation shop=fashion is cheaper than shop=boutique
      comes from.</p>
    <p>Simon<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.08.2017 13:13, Martin
      Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
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        sent from a phone</div>
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        On 26. Aug 2017, at 11:15, Simon Poole <<a
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        <div><span>the question turned up if shop=fashion (with 5000
            something uses) </span><br>
          <span>should not be deprecated (==not offered for new use) due
            to overlap with</span><br>
          <span>shop=boutique (~11'000 uses) and shop=clothes,
            clothes=fashion (not</span><br>
          <span>particularly popular with roughly 200 uses). It just
            doesn't seem to</span><br>
          <span>have a good definition, which is already pointed out on
            the wiki page</span><br>
          <span>(but without a conclusion).</span></div>
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      <div>I'd see shop=fashion similar with shop=boutique, while
        shop=clothes is not particularly helpful if you're looking to
        buy clothes (too generic). I'd roughly see it like this:
        boutique expensive, fashion cheap(er), department store both,
        supermarket cheap ;-)</div>
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      <div>What would I search for if I wanted to buy a suit or a shirt
        (department shops apart which will sell you anything)? Maybe a
        "boutique for men"? To buy gloves I'd try with a  shop=bags? Or
        shop=leather? Or shop=sports? Or an outdoor shop? There are many
        places to buy clothes, cheap, casual, formal, according to the
        material, for work, gender, age, style, one brand/designer or
        multiple, or no (known) designer, discounter, different types of
        clothing (underwear, shirts, etc.</div>
      <div>I'm rather against reduction of top level shop types, there's
        IMHO a clear distinction between fashion shops and boutiques,
        with maybe some edge cases, but still useful overall.
        Nonetheless I agree that shop=clothes does require subtags to be
        more useful, but the current situation in the clothes key is not
        working:</div>
      <div><a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values</a></div>
      <div>There are many orthogonal, specific properties tagged, e.g.
        target group (women, men, children, babies), for specific
        occasions/uses (sports/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur),
        type (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new
        category in this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really
        significant).</div>
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      <div>cheers,</div>
      <div>Martin </div>
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