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<p>There is already disambiguation within the shop=clothes object
with over 10'000 uses of the clothes tag. and I'm not quite sure
were your stipulation shop=fashion is cheaper than shop=boutique
comes from.</p>
<p>Simon<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 26.08.2017 13:13, Martin
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On 26. Aug 2017, at 11:15, Simon Poole <<a
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<div><span>the question turned up if shop=fashion (with 5000
something uses) </span><br>
<span>should not be deprecated (==not offered for new use) due
to overlap with</span><br>
<span>shop=boutique (~11'000 uses) and shop=clothes,
clothes=fashion (not</span><br>
<span>particularly popular with roughly 200 uses). It just
doesn't seem to</span><br>
<span>have a good definition, which is already pointed out on
the wiki page</span><br>
<span>(but without a conclusion).</span></div>
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<div>I'd see shop=fashion similar with shop=boutique, while
shop=clothes is not particularly helpful if you're looking to
buy clothes (too generic). I'd roughly see it like this:
boutique expensive, fashion cheap(er), department store both,
supermarket cheap ;-)</div>
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<div>What would I search for if I wanted to buy a suit or a shirt
(department shops apart which will sell you anything)? Maybe a
"boutique for men"? To buy gloves I'd try with a shop=bags? Or
shop=leather? Or shop=sports? Or an outdoor shop? There are many
places to buy clothes, cheap, casual, formal, according to the
material, for work, gender, age, style, one brand/designer or
multiple, or no (known) designer, discounter, different types of
clothing (underwear, shirts, etc.</div>
<div>I'm rather against reduction of top level shop types, there's
IMHO a clear distinction between fashion shops and boutiques,
with maybe some edge cases, but still useful overall.
Nonetheless I agree that shop=clothes does require subtags to be
more useful, but the current situation in the clothes key is not
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<div>There are many orthogonal, specific properties tagged, e.g.
target group (women, men, children, babies), for specific
occasions/uses (sports/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur),
type (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new
category in this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really
significant).</div>
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<div>cheers,</div>
<div>Martin </div>
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