<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>This will need a whole proposal to get a comprehensive description for pumps.<br></div>I think we should only use pump=yes for now and wait for a more complete document to be written.<br><br></div>I agree with Colin, this is a vast question and it takes time to think about right tags to use.<br><br></div>François<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><b>François Lacombe</b><br><br>fl dot infosreseaux At gmail dot com<br><a href="http://www.infos-reseaux.com" target="_blank">www.infos-reseaux.com</a><br><a href="http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux" target="_blank">@InfosReseaux</a></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-12-19 17:52 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:colin.smale@xs4all.nl" target="_blank">colin.smale@xs4all.nl</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Verdana,Geneva,sans-serif">
<p>Hi Moritz,</p>
<p>It depends on what characteristics are important to you.</p>
<p>"water driven" is power transfer medium so pump:power_medium=water. This is not the energy source! It doesn't say if the water has potential/kinetic energy due to gravity, or if it itself is being pressurised by a powered pump (e.g. hydrostatic drive)</p>
<p>"integrated" is to distinguish from something else? What would be alternatives to a pump being "integrated"?</p>
<p>"bilge pump" is about its function, so something like "pump:function=bilge"</p>
<p>"in a well" is about its location so "pump:location=bottom_of_well"<wbr>?</p>
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<p>How about the type of pump? Centrifugal? Reciprocating?</p>
<p>And the medium that is being pumped? In this context it is probably water but in general a pump could be used for all sorts of stuff.</p><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">
<p>--colin</p></font></span><div><div class="h5">
<p>On 2017-12-19 17:31, Moritz wrote:</p>
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<div class="m_-7899908062150755015pre" style="margin:0;padding:0;font-family:monospace"><span style="white-space:nowrap">Hi Colin,</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">Am 2017-12-19 16:29, schrieb <wbr>Colin Smale:</span>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0">Please don't use "pump:type" as it invites people to use it for loads of<br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">different things. You are <wbr>actually doing it yourself. A <wbr>"bilge pump" is</span><br> functional and says nothing about the construction or power source (even<br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">if there is such a thing as a <wbr>typical bilge pump). And "<wbr>electric_pump"</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">is about the power source, <wbr>and says nothing about the <wbr>function or</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">construction.</span><br> </blockquote>
<br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">What is your suggestion for <wbr>proper tagging a</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">* water driven bilge pump <wbr>which is integrated in the <wbr>well</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">* an electric pump integrated <wbr>in the well?</span><br> <br> Moritz<br> <br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0"><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">On 2017-12-19 16:20, François <wbr>Lacombe wrote:</span><br> <br>
<blockquote type="cite" style="padding:0 0.4em;border-left:#1010ff 2px solid;margin:0"><span style="white-space:nowrap">Hi Viking,</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">Thank you for your work on <wbr>this additional part</span><br> <br> I'd be in favor of grouping pump et pump:type in on "pump" key. Valid values would be yes, bilge_pump or electric_pum. Yes would be used only if pump technology is unknown.<br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">There is no need of 2 keys.</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">All the best</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">François</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">FRANÇOIS LACOMBE</span><br> <br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">fl dot infosreseaux At gmail <wbr>dot com</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap"><a href="http://www.infos-reseaux.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">www.infos-reseaux.com</a> [<a href="http://www.infos-reseaux.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">3</a>]</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">@InfosReseaux [<a href="http://www.twitter.com/InfosReseaux" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">4</a>]</span><br> <span style="white-space:nowrap">2017-12-19 10:40 GMT+01:00 <wbr>Viking <<a href="mailto:viking81@tin.it" target="_blank">viking81@tin.it</a>>:</span><br> <br>
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