<div dir="ltr">I've thought about it and I believe the option with a note is better.<br><br>If we tag it on the area:<div> - an unaware data consumer will see just some strange tags</div><div> - an informed data consumer will know "somewhere in there"<br><br>If we mark the object with a note:<br><div> - an unaware data consumer will see the object with an inaccurate position</div><div> - an informed data consumer will know "somewhere around there"<br><br>With the exception of data consumers who rely on accurate positions (which is a dangerous thing to do with OSM), an (reasonably) inaccurate position seems better than no position. If I want to find a bench, getting a position 10m off seems better than not seeing any. Also, tagging on the area will likely be messy - I might want to add a lot of details about a bench, which would result in tons of tags on the area, which would require something like ":bench" and so on... Finally, an object with a note can give a bit more information - while the fact that a bench will not leave the park and a BWE will stay in the mine is somewhat intuitive, expressing "benches are usually along these three paths" would be nigh impossible with a tag on an area.<br><br>Thing is, notes are meant to be human readable, not machine readable. Notes can contain other information and are harder to look for typos in. Couldn't we agree on a tag for these objects? Something like "position=variable"?<br><br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 December 2017 at 23:15, Graeme Fitzpatrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><span class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 December 2017 at 01:46, Michal Fabík <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:michal.fabik@gmail.com" target="_blank">michal.fabik@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:</div></span><div class="gmail_quote"><span class=""><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Can anybody think of other examples like this?</blockquote><div><br></div></span><div>Cranes?</div><div><br></div><div>I was thinking about Hammerhead cranes that are used on (usually) high-rise construction sites & are in place for maybe 12 months (+/-) at a time, depending on duration of construction. These are also visible from quite a distance to give a navigation reference, although, of course, they're usually found in built-up areas (& are also on construction sites, which will also be marked as such in OSM! :-))</div><div><br></div><div>Also just thought about dockside cranes for loading shipping containers. They would always be on this particular dock, but may travel up & down along the length of the dock?</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div>Thanks<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></font></span></div></div>
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