<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Hi,<br><br></div>Regarding this location=kiosk topic, a discussion was opened on talk page of power=substation key.<br><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Kiosk_substations_in_street_cabinets">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Kiosk_substations_in_street_cabinets</a><br><br></div>Since no big issue has been raised, I've updated mentionned wiki pages (with French version when available) with man_made=street_cabinet.<br><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Location_values" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:power%<wbr>3Dtransformer#Location_values</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Key:location</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:substation%<wbr>3Dminor_distribution</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:power%<wbr>3Dsubstation#Location</a><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:man_made%<wbr>3Dstreet_cabinet</a></div><div><br></div><div>location=kiosk is not a recommended value anymore and it's encouraged to replace it manually and carefully with man_made=street_cabinet + street_cabinet=power</div><div><br></div><div>location key can now be used everytime to give the right substation/transformer's location, in cabinet or not.</div><div>We can have underground or indoor cabinets like this : <br></div><div><div>man_made=street_cabinet</div><div>street_cabinet=power</div><div>power=substation</div><div>substation=minor_distribution</div>location=underground or indoor or ...</div><div><br></div><div>All the best</div><div><br></div><div>François<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2017-11-04 11:45 GMT+01:00 François Lacombe <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com" target="_blank">fl.infosreseaux@gmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>Hi<br><br></div>The man_made=street_cabinet key sounds suitable to map items described with power=substation + location=kiosk.<br></div>They are actual small cabinets like those where no technician can enter to work (opposite of building) : <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:10kV_trafo_kiosk.jpg" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/File:10kV_trafo_<wbr>kiosk.jpg</a></div><div><br></div><div>Street cabinet is the container while substation is the function. <br></div><div><br></div><div>Wiki example on this page gives follwing tags:</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Examples" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:power%<wbr>3Dsubstation#Examples</a><br></div><div>power=substation</div><div>substation=minor_distribution <br></div><div>location=kiosk</div><div><br></div><div>I propose to update it as such :</div><div>man_made=street_cabinet</div><div>street_cabinet=power</div><div>power=substation</div><div>substation=minor_distribution</div><div>location=pavement (or wherever the cabinet is located)<br></div><div><br></div><div>It works both for nodes or areas.<br></div><div>Additionnal advantage is to get location=* back to give cabinet position instead of substation design (there was issues to tag underground kiosks for instance) <br></div><div>There are 7k objects in db:</div><div><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/location=kiosk" target="_blank">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/tags/location=kiosk</a></div><div><br></div><div>Pages to update are :</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dtransformer#Location_values" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:power%<wbr>3Dtransformer#Location_values</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:location" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Key:location</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:substation%3Dminor_distribution" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:substation%<wbr>3Dminor_distribution</a></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:power%3Dsubstation#Location" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:power%<wbr>3Dsubstation#Location</a><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dstreet_cabinet" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:man_made%<wbr>3Dstreet_cabinet</a></div><div><br></div><div>How do you feel about it ?<br></div><div><br></div><div>There are no need of a time consuming formal proposal to deal with this question.<br></div>Without further coments, i will update wiki pages in 15 days.<br></div><div>No automated edits.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Thanks for your time<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br></font></span></div><span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div>François<br><div><div><div><div><br></div></div></div></div></font></span></div>
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