<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jan 9, 2018 at 1:14 PM, Tijmen Stam <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mailinglists@iivq.net" target="_blank">mailinglists@iivq.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">+1 as well. As an active explorer, I wouldn't encourage mapping those.<br>
It has no use outside the very close and sometimes closed community, which has many means (fora, facebook pages) to share those locations.<br>
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Also, most urban explorers do not want to openly share locations, for fears of vandalism and grafitti artist.<br>
So even for explorers it is beneficial to not share locations too openly.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Even urbex has a life cycle associated with it. Some sites move beyond<br></div><div>urbex into 'adventure tourism'.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Bannerman's Arsenal on Pollepel Island in the Hudson River, New York, was once<br></div><div>a site for urban explorers (relatively safe from detection, since at the time the<br></div><div>dock had been demolished and the place was accessible only by canoe<br></div><div>or kayak). It then became a target for vandals, and started to be policed<br></div><div>rigidly. Now it's sort of been discovered, and the land trust that owns the<br></div><div>place offers guided hard-hat tours of the ruin.<br><a href="http://www.hudsonriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/basic_page_gallery_image/public/bannerman-island-1.jpg">http://www.hudsonriver.com/sites/default/files/styles/basic_page_gallery_image/public/bannerman-island-1.jpg</a><br><br></div><div>The burnt-out shell of the Overlook Mountain House hotel, farther upriver,<br></div><div>is another popular tourist spot - for tourists who are up to gaining about<br></div><div>450 m of elevation on a 3.9 km hike in, and who have a healthy respect<br></div><div>for rattlesnakes, which inhabit the ruins. I always see people up there when<br></div><div>I go. It's on the trail guides and whatnot, so once again, this is a lawful<br></div><div>one. (The trail conference even provides volunteer stewards to patrol<br></div><div>the place and educate the public on summer weekends.)<br><a href="https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/7082922237/">https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/7082922237/</a><br><br></div><div>I'm fine with mapping sites like these. Not so much, the ones of questionable<br></div><div>legality.<br><br></div><div><br> <br></div></div><br></div></div>