<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body><div><div style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">I didn't know about that page. It makes sense. Thx.</div></div><div dir="ltr"><hr><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com">Volker Schmidt</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">18-01-18 09:39</span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tag discussion, strategy and related tools</a></span><br><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style="font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">Re: [Tagging] Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle</span><br><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div>I suppose Osmose uses the country specific tables in [1]<br></div>The table for Belgium states that bicycle=no is implicit for "highway=trunk".<br></div>Hence the short way in question would need to have the additional tag "bicycle=yes" for bicycle routing to pass along that cycle lane.<br></div>The road signs out there seem to be consistent, there are "no-bicycle" sign along the ring road, except for this short piece.</div><div><br></div><div>Your second point regarding the road classification trunk is a different issue, that needs to be discussed with the Belgian community.<br></div><div><div><div><div><div><br>[1] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_tags_for_routing/Access-Restrictions</a><br></div></div></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 17 January 2018 at 22:45, OSMDoudou <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238eee@gmx.com" target="_blank">19b350d2-b1b3-4edb-ad96-288ea1238eee@gmx.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid;"><div lang="EN-US" link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class="m_-6448246730566994945WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal">Hello,<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This is a two-fold question in fact.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">(A)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Osmose raises error "Way access mismatch relation route=bicycle" [1] on a segment of the R50 highway [2] [3].<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I'm guessing it's because the segment is part of relation for a bike route but it's tagged as trunk (as the rest of R50), and a trunk would imply a restriction for bicycles.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Although, I see such an implication for motorways [4], I don't see it for trunks [5].<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Do you know what causes the access mismatch, because I don't see it from the tags ?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">(B)<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">This issue raises the question whether R50 should be tagged as trunk in the first place.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">The Wiki page [6] refers to notions like "high performance" and road signs F9. But the road is limited to 70 km/h and there are no F9 signs on the entries and exits of R50, only C19 "No entry for pedestrians" and C11 + C9 "No entry for bicycles" + "No entry for mopeds (and mofas)", which tend to confirm it's not a trunk.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I wonder if primary wouldn't be more accurate classification, although the Wiki refers to a "highway linking large towns" [7], which is not the case here as the highway is a ring around the city not a road between cities.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">What type of road would you qualify the entire R50 ?<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">Thx.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[1] <a href="http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/en/error/15216104253" target="_blank">http://osmose.openstreetmap.<wbr>fr/en/error/15216104253</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[2] <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/251684307" target="_blank">http://www.openstreetmap.org/<wbr>browse/way/251684307</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[3] <a href="https://goo.gl/maps/khpwvm8kxQw" target="_blank">https://goo.gl/maps/<wbr>khpwvm8kxQw</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[4] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dmotorway" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:highway%<wbr>3Dmotorway</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[5] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Trunk" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Trunk</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[6] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Belgium</a><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">[7] <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dprimary" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dprimary</a><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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