<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-01-23 12:05 GMT+01:00 marc marc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
> 2018-01-23 10:16 GMT+01:00 Colin Smale :<br>
> If they already had the power, the source:maxspeed value should not<br>
> have referred to BE but to Flanders specifically (BE:VL?).<br>
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This usecase show that the country prefix is not useful.<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br></blockquote></blockquote></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">IMHO it shows that the prefix must refer to the entity that has the power to decide the default maxspeed, and this is not always a country, but can also be a region, a state or a county, for example, and obviously, in these cases, you have to choose a different prefix.</div><div class="gmail_extra">In some areas this seems to be current practise:</div><div class="gmail_extra"><a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source:maxspeed#values">https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/source:maxspeed#values</a></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra">those who add the panel in osm are not necessarily aware of the level<br>
of government that can change its default value.<br>
t...<br>
the solution would again to have a default:maxspeed on a boundary.<br>
the panels should be simplified : maxspeed:type=urban <> zone <> sign<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>how would that be an improvement? If you don't know who is in charge of the default limit you also can't choose a boundary where to put the limit.</div><div>The main reason for this whole source:maxspeed tag is that you can't tell otherwise whether you are inside a settlement ("urban") or not ("rural"), it isn't in the data otherwise.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div class="gmail_extra">
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> I wonder how this works, do you have signs on each and every "border"<br>
> point telling the driver they are leaving / entering a region?<br>
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yes, a pannel saying "welcome to the Brussels-Capital Region"<br>
with a pannel giving maxspeed default value on main road</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>and on other roads? Maybe you'll need to pass a geography test to get your driving license ;-)<br></div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Martin<br></div></div>