<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 1:33 AM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div dir="ltr">On Wed, Feb 7, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span>
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I think of table tennis as a sport, so see no reason why
the playing area for table tennis should not be tagged
as a pitch in OSM.<br>
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<div>In British English, "pitch" has a specific meaning with
respect to sport. The equivalent in US and Canadian
English<br>
is "playing field" or "sports field." It is grass or
artificial grass for running around, and being tackled to
the ground.<br>
Grass or artificial grass to prevent injuries when being
tackled to the ground. Grass or artificial grass to
prevent the<br>
surface being churned to mud on rainy days.<br>
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<div>It makes no sense whatsoever, in British English, to
talk of a table tennis pitch any more than it would be to
talk of a<br>
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There's a reason it's called "table tennis" not "pitch
tennis" or "field tennis." Pitches are large<br>
enough for 22 men to run around on (smaller versions for
kiddies) kicking or throwing or hitting a ball.<br>
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Dictionary time - pitch... <br>
Oxford - <span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">An area of ground marked out or used for
play in an outdoor team game. <br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Sounds about right to me. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">
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No mention of surface or size. As there is 5 a side soccer .. <br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Which is why I mentioned smaller versions for kiddies. And 5-a-side is often on indoor pitches and often played<br></div><div>by kiddies.<br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">
The present game of tennis is played on a much smaller are then
traditional 11 a side soccer. <br>
And it can be played on clay. <br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Tennis is played on a court with a hard surface, not a pitch. Except for lawn tennis, which is played on grass, but<br>is still a court.<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">
Shuttle cock?<br>
Volley ball?<br></span></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Offhand, I don't know. And don't care. I assiduously avoid sport of all kinds. <span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"> :) I vaguely remember volley ball being<br></span></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">associated with a court.<br></span></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">Archery ... according to the wiki uses pitch ... as does shooting
... </span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'll take your word for it. <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"></span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">If table tennis is excluded then so should these. And possibly
more. </span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">How pedantic should OSM be?</span><br><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">Just pointing out the inconsistencies.
</span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>These are inconsistencies in the English language, and OSM uses British English. Having a table-tennis pitch<br></div><div>is as bizarre as having a rugby table or a cricket court.<br><br></div><div>"Pitch" isn't a good generic term for "playing area." Nor is "table" or "court." If you want a one-size-fits-all<br></div><div>term, "pitch" isn't it.<br><br><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"></span></div><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">sport</span><br></blockquote></div><blockquote><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"></span></blockquote><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"> </span>Once synchronized swimming became a "sport" the word lost all meaning.<br><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"></span></span><span class=""><br></span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
</span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind"><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">Chess has little physical
exertion. So would not meet the strict definition of a 'sport'.
</span></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I would say chess is not a sport. But the term "sport" has been greatly degraded by people who pursue various<br></div><div>activities wanting to be able to compete in the Olympics. But I hate all sport and don't really care because a pitch<br></div><div>or court or rink (mustn't forget ice skaters) is a semi-permanent physical feature whereas the "sport" played on it<br></div><div>is ephemeral.<br><br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I tried yoga once. It tasted like sour milk to me.<br>
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</span><span class=""></span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">More </span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">Dictionary time -
yoga .. </span><br></blockquote><span class=""></span><span class="m_-6261726934085508851ind">While you have the dictionary open, look up the term "humour."<br></span><br>-- <br></div><div text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">Paul<br><br></div></div></div></div>