<div dir="ltr"><div><div>There is more to this.<br><br>What's the difference between "campanile" and "bell_tower" (independently form the tagging scheme)?<br></div><div>Hint: the English Wikipedia redirects to the Bell Tower page (no indication that a "campanile" is free-standing)<br></div><div><br></div><div>The English wiki page for "man_made=campanile" says:<br>"A free standing bell tower, typically near a church.
"<br></div><div>However (nearly) all bell towers in Italy, many of which are free-standing, are tagged as bell_tower.<br>
The English wiki page for tower:type=bell_tower says:<br>
<ul><li> <tt style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6" dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-mw-content-ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:bell_tower&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Key:bell tower (page does not exist)" target="_blank">bell_tower</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bell_tower%3Dcampanile&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Tag:bell tower=campanile (page does not exist)" target="_blank">campanile</a></tt> - free standing bell tower derived from Italian <i>campana</i> - bell)</li>
<li> <tt style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6" dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-mw-content-ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:bell_tower&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Key:bell tower (page does not exist)" target="_blank">bell_tower</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bell_tower%3Dklockstapel&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Tag:bell tower=klockstapel (page does not exist)" target="_blank">klockstapel</a></tt> - free standing wooden belfry (in Northern Europe)</li>
<li> <tt style="background:rgb(238,238,255) none repeat scroll 0% 0%;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6" dir="ltr" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-mw-content-ltr"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:bell_tower&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Key:bell tower (page does not exist)" target="_blank">bell_tower</a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:bell_tower%3Dbell_gable&action=edit&redlink=1" class="gmail-m_-7115697274151704719gmail-new" title="Tag:bell tower=bell gable (page does not exist)" target="_blank">bell_gable</a></tt> - flat belfry (Spanish <i>Espadaña</i>)</li></ul><p>but the English wiki page for tower:type=campanile shows the photograph of a klockstapel.</p>
<br></div><div>statistics:
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none"><br>man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile</span> (164)<br>
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">man_made=campanile</span>
(798)<br></div>man_made=tower and tower:type=bell_tower (10717)<br>man_made=bell_tower (33)<br>bell tower=klockstapel (15)<br>bell_tower=bell_gable (1)<br><br>
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">In Northern Italy:<br>(man_made=tower and tower:type=campanile) or man_made=campanile (<200) (not all of which are free-standing)<br>
man_made=tower and tower:type=bell_tower
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">(~</span>6000), of which I would guess the large majority are free-standing<br><br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">Conclusion:<br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">The wiki pages do not describe the actual use of the tags.<br></span></div><div><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline;float:none">In particular the "campanile" tag is rarely used and most free-standing bell towers are tagged as bell_tower (in my view the correct English term) and not with the Italian term "campanile".<br></span></div><div> <br></div><div>The campanile tag is used as a variant of bell_tower with no specific distinction with regard to free-standing-ness or not.<br><br></div><div><br><h2><br></h2>
<br></div><br><br><div><br><br><br><div><br></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 March 2018 at 07:54, Tomasz Wójcik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tomox3@wp.pl" target="_blank">tomox3@wp.pl</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p>Currently there are 2 tags for campaniles, which has no
difference between each other:</p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">*
man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">*
man_made=campanile</span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">I think we
should move "man_made=campanile" to </span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none">"man_made=tower + tower:type=campanile"
combination, which will mach to the rest of a towers tagging
scheme:</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Verdana,Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:13px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:left;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(252,253,254);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;display:inline!important;float:none"><a class="m_-5950518150078140759moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:tower:type" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Key:tower:type</a><br>
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