<div dir="ltr">I don't think a tag is needed for "wild" platforms. As already noted, public_transport=platform applies to nodes already. And shelter=yes/no or bench=yes/no can be added if that's the infrastructure Christian means. (Not clear to me what exactly a "wild" platform is.)<div><br></div><div>And if a tag is needed, stop vs stop_position would surely cause confusion!</div><div><br></div><div>As has been noted elsewhere, public_transport=platform was probably not an ideal word choice, perhaps wait_area or some such would have been better, but it is what it is.<br><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 8:45 AM, Selfish Seahorse <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:selfishseahorse@gmail.com" target="_blank">selfishseahorse@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">> If this is a problem, because the tag should ideally discrimnate built structure features, then either<br>
><br>
> a) find a new tag for wild platforms<br>
<br>
</span>Maybe public_transport=stop?<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
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On 29 March 2018 at 16:30, "Christian Müller" <<a href="mailto:cmue81@gmx.de">cmue81@gmx.de</a>> wrote:<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">> Mapping public transport in detail was in part started to aid impaired<br>
> people and people with diminished mobility. The stop_position is an attempt<br>
> to tell for large/long platforms at which subarea of the platform you can<br>
> expect a public service vehicle to have an entrance (regardless of its<br>
> length, that may change with time of day or when the schedule of the company<br>
> is overhauled).<br>
><br>
> The platform itself will not give you any clues which position to route a<br>
> user to so that him/her readjusting position on that platform is minimal<br>
> once the vehicle arrived and is ready for boarding.<br>
><br>
> If the platform exists, mapping it is more important than the stop_position,<br>
> but the latter gives additional info _especially_ for lengthy or large<br>
> platforms.<br>
><br>
> -----<br>
><br>
> There have been complaints about added pseudo-platforms in the data. This<br>
> situation stems from the fact, that platforms are missing on ground (for<br>
> lack of money, political decisions or because the halt is seen as a<br>
> temporary one). _Nevertheless_, public transport users _do_ and _have_ to<br>
> use parts of the area around the PT-pole as a platform. In this case the<br>
> tag is not used to map a built structure, but how the space is effectively<br>
> used on ground. If this is a problem, because the tag should ideally<br>
> discrimnate built structure features, then either<br>
><br>
> a) find a new tag for wild platforms<br>
> b) allow the platform tag on nodes and use a single node only where a built<br>
> platform structure does not exist<br>
><br>
> may be an solution.<br>
><br>
><br>
> Greetings<br>
> cmuelle8<br>
><br>
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 29. März 2018 um 13:36 Uhr<br>
> Von: Jo <<a href="mailto:winfixit@gmail.com">winfixit@gmail.com</a>><br>
> An: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br>
> Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Still RFC — Drop stop positions and platforms<br>
> That's what I would like to see happen. Last year I created a wiki page<br>
> about it (with screenshots):<br>
><br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/PT_Assistant/Mapping_Public_Transport_with_JOSM#Downloading_data" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/PT_<wbr>Assistant/Mapping_Public_<wbr>Transport_with_JOSM#<wbr>Downloading_data</a><br>
><br>
> Polyglot<br>
><br>
> 2018-03-29 13:09 GMT+02:00 Selfish Seahorse <<a href="mailto:selfishseahorse@gmail.com">selfishseahorse@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
>><br>
>> > Otherwise, public_transport=stop_position could be abandoned, which<br>
>> > would make PTv2 tagging a lot easier and more time-efficient.<br>
><br>
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