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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>There is also an automated key mentioned on the wiki. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This applies mostly to self_service I would guess, and I assumed automated=yes indicates that you can pay at the pump.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I didn’t mention the following because taginfo showed that it’s not used and there pretty surely is no software support for them yet, but I agree with marc that it would make sense to extend the allowed values from yes/no. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I think two additional values would make sense: only (=yes, and only this) and optional (=yes, but alternatives exist). They are basically both more specific versions of “yes”.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If we are not going to define completely new keys, I would suggest keeping both self_service and full_service, but with the extended values you can get away with only defining one of the two.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>e.g.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>self_service=optional (implies full_service=optional)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>full_service=only (implies self_service=no)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>if we add the automated key and the extend value, we get:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>automated=no (have to interact with a human to pay)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>automated=yes (you can pay directly at the pump, it’s unknown if it’s alternatively possible to interact with a human to pay)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>automated=only (you have to pay at the pump, no alternative exists. e.g. this would apply to the Costco petrol station near me)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>automated=optional (you can pay at the pump, but it’s also possible to interact with a human to pay)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>I do realize that the things you can express with this combination of self_service, full_service, and automated keys is somewhat different from the 6 variants presented by Paul below, but I think it’s the best that can be done when using the existing keys and a (hopefully somewhat logical) extension of the values.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Also, all 3 keys should allow the use of :conditional<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If the possibilities expressed by these 3 keys is considered insufficient, then we’ll probably have to define some completely new key.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thorsten<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Paul Johnson <baloo@ursamundi.org> <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, 1 April 2018 04:06<br><b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Attendant on amenity=fuel<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sat, Mar 31, 2018 at 7:01 AM, Andy Mabbett <<a href="mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk" target="_blank">andy@pigsonthewing.org.uk</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>On 29 March 2018 at 11:58, Javier Sánchez Portero <<a href="mailto:javiersanp@gmail.com">javiersanp@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> I'm looking for a key to denote if you have<br>> to refuel by your self or not. I meant if the station operates on self<br>> service mode.<br><br>There are (at least) three modes:<br><br>* Attendant service<br>* Self service, pay at kiosk<br>* Self service, pay at pump<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I'd go with more.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Self service, pay at kiosk<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Self service, pay at pump<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Minimum service, pay at pump (default in Oregon and New Jersey)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Minimum service, pay in store (basically just Arco in Oregon)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Full service, pay at pump (uncommon)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>* Full service, pay at kiosk (is this even a thing?)<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>