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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>I’ve noticed that someone from the Microsoft Open Map team is very busy adding turn restrictions all over the place ( <a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/shawat94/">https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/shawat94/</a> ).<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>In my local neighbourhood, I noticed that he added no_u_turn restrictions to all the nodes where a road into in/out of a roundabout is splitting (because of physical separation). Which basically amounts to 4 no_u_turn restrictions for every single roundabout.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>e.g. here:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57747093">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57747093</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57674063">https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/57674063</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>There is no actual no_u_turn sign in any of these locations, it’s just (mostly) physically a bad idea to attempt a u-turn here.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Just a few weeks ago I discussed exactly this in #osm and the conclusion was that it was neither necessary nor desirable to do this.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I made a comment about that to the first of the two changesets linked above, but haven’t gotten a reply.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>So, what is the general opinion about this here? Should these turn restrictions be created or not?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thorsten<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>