<div dir="ltr">Your point about stopping in traffic is a good one, and it dovetails with the notion that a bus station (amenity) normally includes one or more dedicated bus lanes. Perhaps that can be added to the wiki.<div><br></div><div>Smaller places and/or transfer points are well covered by the Stop Area concept, which the wiki page might link to.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport=stop_area">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:public_transport=stop_area</a></div><div><br></div><div>Just today I created a bus station that might be better done as a stop area. Comments welcome.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/578003955">https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/578003955</a><br></div><div><br></div><div>The dedicated bus lane had already been tagged "gare routière" (French for bus station).</div><div><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 9, 2018 at 3:24 PM, Wiklund Johan <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:johan.wiklund@entur.org" target="_blank">johan.wiklund@entur.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">I think there is no realistic distinction to be made between a bus station and a "regular" bus stop. Mainly because each bus stop is different from the next. One could argue that any bus stop where more than one waiting area is a bus station, or if it has some kind of amenity tied to it like a waiting room or toilets. But any stop can have an amenity, and the most rural and amenity-free stop can support several buses and have multiple waiting areas. We also have an example with tour bus stops in front of a tourist attraction: they may be far larger and better than most so called bus stations even. Should they be bus station too?<br>
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I clearly see the usefulness of having big and small bus stops, but to give them a definition that works on a step-free scale of difference worldwide is always going to be hard.<br>
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I think I personally would prefer a large bus stop as an area exclusively for used public transport bus activity (potentially in combination with taxi) and the smaller bus stop as a place where a bus can stop among other traffic. But that's my wish and may not be 1:1 with the current modeling of stops.<br>
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(by large and small bus stops I'm thinking about the way they are rendered)<br>
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On 09/04/2018 11:55, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:<br>
> Currently definition at<br>
> <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbus_station" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbus_<wbr>station</a><br>
> is unclear, it fits two cases<br>
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> * intercity bus station (routes between cities, importance comparable<br>
> to railway=station)<br>
> * terminus highway=bus_stop (routes within city terminate and start<br>
> here, minor importance, importance lower than railway=halt)<br>
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> while in my experience tag is used only in the first case (what makes<br>
> sense).<br>
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> Would it be OK to edit wiki and restrict it only to the first meaning?<br>
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Being a bus station or not has nothing to do with whether the routes from there are intercity or not (though often intercity routes will stop at a bus station rather than elsewhere) or whether bus routes terminate or not (though often they will).<br>
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I suspect the wiki author is just trying to describe "what tends to happen at" a bus station rather than defining it. The picture on the wiki is somewhat confusingly a combined tram and bus station; maybe pictures of more examples from more continents would help?<br>
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Best Regards,<br>
Andu<br>
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