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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Yes Martin, same thing – but these are the big obvious ones. These are easy to say “that’s a bus station”, but what I’m
trying to get at is that when you scale them down in size there is no clear line to be drawn when a bus station turns into a regular bus stop. When should the big icon become a small icon?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">For example Lysaker:
<a href="http://www.banenor.no/contentassets/3902666056fd47deb0e404589dda391f/oversikt-lysaker-520.jpg">
http://www.banenor.no/contentassets/3902666056fd47deb0e404589dda391f/oversikt-lysaker-520.jpg</a>. The two split roads are each lined with multiple bus stops. It’s a major bus stop where almost all traffic to and from Oslo will stop, It has 7 waiting positions
labeled A-G. It’s also combined with an important train station. Its half way between a street stop and a bus terminal. This is similar to what Johnparis mentions (</span><a href="http://artheme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/8-L15Est-FortAubervilliers-2.jpg"><span lang="EN-US">http://artheme.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/8-L15Est-FortAubervilliers-2.jpg</span></a><span lang="EN-US">).<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">In the next mail you say “I would expect an area” and that’s what I’m thinking too in terms of defining a difference between
an on-street-stop and a separate dedicated bus area – the size and importance is a different thing and I feel we are trying to jam multiple concepts into one un-unifiable terminology.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’m going to be bold and say remove amenity=bus_station and replace it with landuse=public_transport + public_transport=bus_station
(and subsequently public_transport=train and so on). “Regular” bus stops “in the wild” would then just be relations with public=transport=platform as the only area-object.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I’ll have to mention that I am by no means an expert on the OSM public transport scheme (any of them), mostly because pt
is my daytime job and I can’t be bothered doing it in my free time as well </span>
<span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Martin Koppenhoefer [mailto:dieterdreist@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> mandag 9. april 2018 18.06<br>
<b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Unclear meaning of amenity=bus_station<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">2018-04-09 15:24 GMT+02:00 Wiklund Johan <<a href="mailto:johan.wiklund@entur.org" target="_blank">johan.wiklund@entur.org</a>>:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think there is no realistic distinction to be made between a bus station and a "regular" bus stop. Mainly because each bus stop is different from the next. One could argue that any bus stop where more than one waiting area is a bus station,
or if it has some kind of amenity tied to it like a waiting room or toilets. But any stop can have an amenity, and the most rural and amenity-free stop can support several buses and have multiple waiting areas.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">just to make sure we are talking about the same things, these are some images of bus stations:<br>
<a href="http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-zob-central-bus-station-person-real-people-bus-coach-street-scene-78608111.html">http://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-zob-central-bus-station-person-real-people-bus-coach-street-scene-78608111.html</a><br>
<a href="https://www.lanuovariviera.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/pullman.jpg">https://www.lanuovariviera.it/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/pullman.jpg</a><br>
<a href="https://cheaptravelforwomen.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/cheaptravelforwomeneurolinesparis.jpg">https://cheaptravelforwomen.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/cheaptravelforwomeneurolinesparis.jpg</a><b><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Or also like this:<br>
<a href="https://www.alamy.de/fotos-bilder/bus-moroccan.html">https://www.alamy.de/fotos-bilder/bus-moroccan.html</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Is this the same you are writing about?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Martin<o:p></o:p></p>
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