<div dir="ltr"><div>While it is certainly possible for the country to have hundreds of languages, I am pretty sure it is rare for a single village to speak them all. In such cases, the granularity could go down to smaller units than a country (and if OSM is capable of storing hundreds of millions of buildings, I'm sure it can store a few thousand of language regions). Lastly, most (not all) "name" tags are written in a specific, single language. This attempt will document data, without requiring each OSM object to have that info.<br><br></div><div>We should also keep in mind usage of such data. For example, given an object with "name", "name:it" and "name:ja_rm", and the data consumer need to decide which one to use if they are rendering a map in French. With the above data, we can rely on the default language - e.g. if default=it (e.g. in Italy), we would choose name:it. If this is Japan, than we should use "ja_rm". We would also be able to establish the language of the "name", to see when to show it vs others.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Apr 19, 2018 at 3:35 AM, marc marc <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com" target="_blank">marc_marc_irc@hotmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">what's TSKM ?<br>
<br>
for Switzerland, we talk about it a few months ago.<br>
The discussion lacked participants.<br>
but some was thinking that adding official languages on the boundary <br>
could be useful for rendering and tracking officially multilingual <br>
places (name with multiple value is a very heavy (=bad) compromise in <br>
practice, especially since there are several conventions depending on <br>
the country such as the separator which for a (bad) reason of rendering <br>
has sometimes been chosen as" -" instead of the usual ";")<br>
<br>
imho maybe with this schema<br>
one language:xx=yes for each official language<br>
or language=xx;yy;zz where xx yy zz are the official languages<br>
but as far as I know, nothing has been done.<br>
<br>
It seems to me very complicated to tag the languages spoken in a place <br>
of variable geometry. if two families speaking the same language live in <br>
the same street, could you add this info ?<br>
if not, how many families is enough/needed ?<br>
It's too subjective.<br>
<br>
Le 19. 04. 18 à 01:43, Thilo Haug OSM a écrit :<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb">> An example, good luck :<br>
> 56 TSKM, 39 Languages<br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_Togo" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Languages_of_Togo</a><br>
> 41 TSKM, 4 languages :<br>
> <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switzerland" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Switzerland</a><br>
> <br>
> (Germany : 357 TSKM)<br>
> <br>
> Am 18.04.2018 um 21:49 schrieb Vao Matua:<br>
>> I would suggest that OSM is probably not the best place for this. <br>
>> There are many countries that have many or even hundreds of <br>
>> languages. The lines between the places where languages are commonly <br>
>> spoken can be quite fuzzy and often do not follow any other features. <br>
>> A year ago I was living in a place where people living there spoke 3 <br>
>> different languages in addition to the "official" language.<br>
>><br>
>> On Wed, Apr 18, 2018 at 12:41 PM, Yuri Astrakhan <br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>> <<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com">yuriastrakhan@gmail.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:yuriastrakhan@gmail.com">yuriastrakhan@gmail.<wbr>com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> What would be the best tags to use for mapping language regions? <br>
>> I would like to create a map of primary languages spoken in an<br>
>> area. This will greatly help with multilingual maps, allowing data<br>
>> consumers to calculate which language name tags to use for which<br>
>> locale. This will also give OSM community a much greater control<br>
>> over such maps.<br>
>><br>
>> Proposal (relations only, must have closed polygons):<br>
>> type=language<br>
>> primary=xx (required)<br>
>> secondary=yy;zz;... (optional)<br>
>><br>
>> A relation may span multiple countries (e.g. US and most of Canada<br>
>> for English), or split countries (e.g. EN and FR regions in<br>
>> Canada). In some cases, the relation will reuse country border ways.<br>
>><br>
>> What do you think?<br>
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