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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To add to this, based on a discussion in #osm, please be careful what you map.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>If there are poles with signs for the stops, map them. If there are public signs describing the routes, map them. But any stops or routes that are private information only between organizers and parents/students shouldn’t be mapped.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Thorsten<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Johnparis <okosm@johnfreed.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 5 May 2018 06:35<br><b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'>PLEASE do NOT create a highway=walking_bus tag! This would be useful for the Public Transport v1 scheme. Which hopefully will some year go away.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Please DO follow Thorsten's suggestion and follow PTv2, mapping the stops as nodes</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'> alongside the street/way (not on it) in the proper direction</span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>. Tag each one:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>walking_bus=yes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>public_transport=platform<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>If you don't know the side of the street (or it's irrelevant), you can place the node in the street (as part of the way) and tag it with: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>walking_bus=yes<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>public_transport=stop_position <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'>I see that the route relation was discussed here in October 2016. </span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>If you feel ambitious, you can go a step further and create route relations as described under PTv2 using:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>type=route <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>route=walking_bus <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>... and even create route_master relations:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>type=route_master<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222;background:white'>route_master</span><span style='font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>=walking_bus <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>In any case, please do not create a new highway tag. In hindsight those were not the best way to go, but there are a million of them (for buses) so they're not going away anytime soon.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222'>John<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Fri, May 4, 2018 at 5:21 PM, <<a href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au" target="_blank">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>You’ll probably also need a type of route relation for this?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Also, public_transport=platform is only valid with at least one transport type specific tag, e.g. bus=yes or tram=yes. So there should probably be a walkingbus=yes or walking_bus=yes tag on that. (Whichever is chosen, it should be the same string that’s used for the route relation).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Lorenzo Stucchi <<a href="mailto:lorenzo.stucchi@mail.polimi.it" target="_blank">lorenzo.stucchi@mail.polimi.it</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, 4 May 2018 19:22<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Walkingbus_stop</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Hi, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I saw that there is a specific tag for the walking bus stop, so this is mine propose about how to tag them. What do you think about this purpose? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Def: Stop point of walking school bus<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Walkingbus_stop" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Walkingbus_stop</a> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Thank you,</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>LorenzoStucchi</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" target="_blank">https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>