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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/05/18 09:01, Martin Koppenhoefer
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10/05/18 23:57, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:<br>
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I think capacity tagging would be better (if
referring to who can park there), or is really the
access restricted? <br>
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</span> Legally the spaces I am tagging are only meant
for disabled parking. <br>
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<div>i.e. it is forbidden to cross the parking by foot if
you are not disabled?<br>
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and if an area is tagged amenity=parking, access=customers ... same
problem. <br>
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<div>there are some of these</div>
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<div>but the mostly used value is “no”, probably this
is an inconsistency (not about legal access but
about accessibility)</div>
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</span> The no value is some 500, combine values yes and
designated and you get ~800. <br>
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according to the wiki, agricultural, forestry, customers etc.
are _values_ for access tags:<br>
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href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Access_tag_values"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:access#Access_tag_values</a><br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">(agricultural is also a vehicle class
though).<br>
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And some are using disabled as a value too... which was my
suggestion .. see the subject of the thread. <br>
Too me this is a logical extension of the present system of use .. <br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">"disabled" are a class of users (see
"by use"):<br>
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<div class="gmail_extra">Their documented tag is "disabled=*" <br>
<a href="https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disabled"
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This is 'documented"? Ha. Look at the page for the 'documentation'.
I have no idea what it is at all.... <br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Adisabled">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key%3Adisabled</a><br>
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One line saying<br>
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"<tt style="background:#EEF;font-size:1em;line-height:1.6" dir="ltr"
class="mw-content-ltr"><bdi style="white-space:nowrap"><a
class="mw-selflink selflink">disabled</a></bdi>=*</tt> is used
e.g. if there are exceptions for parking rules.
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Really ? What does that mean ??? just going on this 'documentation'
I could not use it .. in any place.<br>
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So far the only 'suggestions' I have that work for me are ;<br>
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use of access=disabled .. some 400 uses<br>
capacity ... needs two entries to specify it and you need to know
the numbers otherwise it could indicated spaces for others which is
not the case. Only works for things that have a capacity?<br>
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I note the use of access=emergency .. some 2,500 uses ... no
documentation. I have used this on a parking area. <br>
And I note this is documentation as a 'by use' ... thing too .. very
inconsistent with other values... <br>
Why the difference between these things .. they all look like they
should be in the same kind of system - either they should all be
values or not values?<br>
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I'll need to think on it some more. :) Not fixed on anything for the
moment. But I'd like it to be easy. <br>
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