<div dir="ltr">Let me elaborate a bit.<div><br></div><div>When the "lanes" tag was introduced the community choose to only count the "full width segments for motorised traffic". Perhaps because traffic law in some countries (e.g. Belgium [1]) define them that way.</div><div>So people started using the tag that way and data consumers started writing software depending on that definition.</div><div><br></div><div>Perhaps it would have been better to count cycle lanes as well, but we did not. For me, this means that with a tag as popular as lanes, we cannot alter the definition later on. It would mean that we have to retag a lot of objects and that tagging habits have to change.</div><div>Furthermore, the tag would be useless for data consumers until we declare all lanes-tags to be updated to the new definition.</div><div><br></div><div>The lanes tag is pretty useless in general. It just works for simple layouts with the same number of car-lanes in both directions (or on one-way streets). For anything more complex the total number of lanes is useless, and we have to rely on the :lanes-suffix anyhow.</div><div>In case of more complex layouts (e.g. odd total number of car-lanes), you can leave out the lanes tag and only use the :lanes-suffix in combination with the :forward and :backward suffixes.</div><div><br></div><div>The cycleway=lane tag is useful for the (at least in Belgium) common layout where cycle lanes are on the outside. So lanes=2, cycleway=lane is a common layout that do not need any additional information. As soon as a cycle lane is between two car lanes, one could start using the :lanes-suffix</div><div>Apparently, we also need to do that when we specify turn:lanes (as the :lanes-suffix always have to take into account the cycle lanes).</div><div><br></div><div>If specify everything with the :lanes-suffix, I do not understand why you would add the lanes-tag. It does not match what you want and is only some kind of checksum (control number).</div><div><br></div><div>regards</div><div><br></div><div>m.</div><div><br></div><div>[1] <a href="https://wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/258-art72">https://wegcode.be/wetteksten/secties/kb/wegcode/258-art72</a> (in Dutch).</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, May 11, 2018 at 5:49 AM, Marc Gemis <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:marc.gemis@gmail.com" target="_blank">marc.gemis@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">I'll agree with all your tags, as ":lanes" is for all lanes, including cycle lanes.<div>It's just historically that "lanes" (the tag alone) is only for motorised traffic.</div></div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 6:55 AM, Paul Johnson <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">I strongly dispute the suggestion in the wiki in regards to lane tagging as this greatly reduces accuracy for complex lane situations and are NOT analogous to the other excluded situations.  The wiki is wrong.</div><div class="m_8556516934069887820HOEnZb"><div class="m_8556516934069887820h5"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, May 9, 2018, 23:46  <<a href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au" target="_blank">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.i<wbr>d.au</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">If I may correct your suggestion, that’s not quite right.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">To quote the wiki for lanes:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">The </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff">lanes=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> key should be used to specify the total number of <b>marked</b> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/en:lanes" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_7" alt="Wikipedia-16px.png"></span><span style="color:#663366"> lanes</span></a>of a road.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">The following lanes should be <b>included</b>:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">General purpose <img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_6" alt="[W]"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lane" title="wikipedia:Lane" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366">traffic lanes</span></a> suitable for vehicles wider than a motorbike.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_5" alt="[W]"></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bus_lane" title="wikipedia:Bus lane" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366">Bus lanes</span></a>, that are reserved for public service vehicles (PSV), for example buses and taxis. Additionally to the total number of lanes, consider to tag the number of lanes for PSV with </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff">lanes:psv=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">, </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff">lanes:bus=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> <wbr>and </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff">lanes:taxi=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"><img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_4" alt="[W]"></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-occupancy_vehicle_lane" title="wikipedia:High-occupancy vehicle lane" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366">High-occupancy vehicle lanes</span></a> (sometimes also called carpool lanes, commuter lanes, express lanes, transit lanes). The number of such lanes could be tagged using </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff">lanes:hov=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Other lanes such as <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/nl:Spitsstrook" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_3" alt="Wikipedia-16px.png"></span><span style="color:#663366"> spitsstroken</span></a>(nl) in the Netherlands or <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/de:Stra%C3%9Fenquerschnitt#Seitenstreifen" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366;text-decoration:none"><img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_2" alt="Wikipedia-16px.png"></span><span style="color:#663366"> temporäre Standstreifen</span></a>(de) in Austria, Germany and Switzerland which are available to traffic at certain restricted times, for example during the rush hour.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Longer slip-roads, for example on motorways and other fast major roads. Turning lanes for minor roads are not normally included. See </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:turn" title="Key:turn" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">turn</span></a>=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> for further details about tagging turning lanes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:6.0pt;margin-left:0cm;background:white"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">And the following lanes should be <b>excluded</b>:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Minor slip roads without a deceleration/acceleration lane, i.e. the main road is wider only because of the intersecting road.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Parking lanes. Consider using </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:parking:lane" title="Key:parking:lane" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">parking:lane</span></a>=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> to provide further information.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Bicycle lanes. Use the tag </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:cycleway" title="Key:cycleway" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">cycleway</span></a>=<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:cycleway%3Dlane" title="Tag:cycleway=lane" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">lane</span></a></span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> for those.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:1.2pt;margin-left:19.2pt;background:white"><u></u><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Symbol;color:#222222"><span>·<span style="font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"">         </span></span></span><u></u><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222">Emergency <img border="0" width="16" height="16" style="width:.1666in;height:.1666in" id="m_8556516934069887820m_2936825178763850617m_1373902970808632470Picture_x0020_1" alt="[W]"> <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder_(road)" title="wikipedia:Shoulder (road)" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#663366">shoulder lanes</span></a>. See </span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Courier New";color:#222222;background:#eeeeff"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shoulder" title="Key:shoulder" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><span style="color:#0b0080">shoulder</span></a>=*</span><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#222222"> for further details.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">So a “normal” two way road with cycleways (in Australia, with left hand traffic) would be tagged as:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">cycleway=lane<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">lanes=2<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">vehicles:lanes:forward=no|yes<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">vehicles:lanes:backward=no|yes<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">bicycle:lanes:forward=designat<wbr>ed|yes<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">bicycle:lanes:backward=designa<wbr>ted|yes<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">When tagging to this level, I generally try to also add the width:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">width:lanes:forward=1|3<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">width:lanes:backward=1|3<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">in JOSM the “lane and road attributes” mapstyle will help visualizing these tagged lanes.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Use vehicle instead of motor_vehicle (to keep carriages out of your cycle lanes…).<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Important: Do NOT include the cycleway lanes in the lanes=x count! The lanes count (which only counts marked lanes for motorized traffic) and the number of entries in the :lanes prefix keys can and will be different! (Which is maybe somewhat unfortunate, but the lanes=count tag predates the :lanes prefix tags by many years, and has been used that way all over the place. Mixing different definitions of the lanes key in different places, or even just different segments of the same road, is going to result in useless, unreliable data as a data consumer will have no way to differentiate what definition of lanes=count would apply.)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">See <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lanes#Crossing_with_a_designated_lane_for_bicycles" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Lanes#Crossing_with_a_<wbr>designated_lane_for_bicycles</a> for an example of that.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Paul Johnson <<a href="mailto:baloo@ursamundi.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">baloo@ursamundi.org</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, 10 May 2018 11:30<br><b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] tagging of one-way cycle lanes<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">My suggestion:<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway=lane<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes=4<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes:forward=2<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes:backward=2<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">motor_vehicle:lanes:forward=ye<wbr>s|no<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">motor_vehicle:lanes:backward=y<wbr>es|no<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">bicycle:lanes:forward=yes|desi<wbr>gnated (maybe no|designated if you're not allowed out of the bike lane on a bike)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">bicycle:lanes:backward=yes|des<wbr>ignated<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Rationale for this:  Sometimes things get complicated.  For example, how would you smash the following tag scenario into "don't include bike lanes in the lane count" schemes?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway=lane<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">oneway=yes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes=5<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">turn:lanes=left;through|left;t<wbr>hrough|through|through|right<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">bicycle:lanes=designated|yes|y<wbr>es|designated|yes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">motor_vehicle:lanes=no|yes|yes<wbr>|no|yes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">And sometimes the cycleway=* tag just can't deal with the situation at all, like when you have curbside bike lanes and the rest of the lanes are shared.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">access:lanes:backward=yes|yes|<wbr>no<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">access:lanes:forward=yes|yes|n<wbr>o<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">bicycle:lanes:backward=designa<wbr>ted|designated|designated<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">bicycle:lanes:forward=designat<wbr>ed|designated|designated<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway=lane<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">highway=tertiary<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes:backward=3<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes:forward=3<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">lanes=6<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">name=South Greenwood Avenue<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">turn:lanes:backward=left;throu<wbr>gh|through|through<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">turn:lanes:forward=left;throug<wbr>h|through|through<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, May 9, 2018 at 12:11 PM, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">voschix@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I want to tag a road (one of thousands in this country) that has two lanes for cars  (one in each direction) and two cycle lanes, one on each side. Thes cycle lanes are by law one-way in the same direction of the motorized traffic in the neighbouring road lane.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">My (basic) tagging would be:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">highway=unclassified (or whatever)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway:right=lane<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway:right:oneway=yes<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal">cycleway:left=lane<u></u><u></u></p></div><div style="margin-left:30.0pt"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">cycleway:left:oneway=-1<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">the value "-1" is discouraged for the "oneway" key, but in this case I see no alternative<br>"cycleway:left:oneway=-1" has some 800 uses in taginfo, "cycleway:right:oneway=yes" has some 2800 uses in taginfo.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Should I go ahead with my tagging? Alternatives?<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>Tagging mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Tagging@openstreetmap.org" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><a href="https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging" rel="noreferrer" tar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