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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>would you say this picture is "off topic" ?<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&oldid=1519060#Pictures">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&oldid=1519060#Pictures</a><br>
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<div class="moz-forward-container">It seems I misunderstood the
field of activity of the DWG<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Data_working_group</a><br>
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Cheers,<br>
Thilo<br>
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<td>Re: [Ticket#2018051110000098] copyright infringement,
imports, and serious disputes and vandalism ?</td>
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<td>Fri, 11 May 2018 16:14:10 +0000</td>
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Hi,<br>
<br>
you do not have to discuss everything you add to the wiki as long
as your edits are in keeping with the general style and purpose of
the wiki.<br>
<br>
Making an article on an OSM tag into a "nice picture gallery" is
*not* in keeping with the general style and purpose of the wiki;
such an extraordinary deviation from the usual norm would require
a good reason.<br>
<br>
If you cannot, or are not willing to, give such a good reason,
then that's your freedom, but you have to accept that the images
you added are being removed.<br>
<br>
The fact that many norms are not documented explicitly doesn't
mean that they don't exist. For example, there's no written rule
that says you cannot include a poem of your favourite author on a
tag description page, but still it would be removed if you did.<br>
<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Frederik Ramm<br>
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[Ticket#2018051110000098]<br>
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05/11/2018 16:04 - Thilo Haug OSM wrote:
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<p>Hi Frederik,</p>
<p>I think I don't need to describe democratic principles
("legitimacy of DWG powers").</p>
<p>As I understand OSM so far,<br>
it is based on principles / guidelines agreed by the
community.</p>
<p>Please send me the link to the according guideline regarding
images.</p>
<p>The general attitude of Mateusz IMHO prevents any motivation
to contribute to the wiki<br>
(deleting or moving stuff WITHOUT consensus or based on
guidelines, but based on personal bias).<br>
Especially as it doesn't affect content which could disturb
anyone.</p>
<p>I refer to this guideline<br>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#When_to_create_a_proposal"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Any_tags_you_like#When_to_create_a_proposal</a><br>
which DOES NOT say every step (each picture or similar) has to
be discussed.</p>
<p>I will not ask for permission (of whom, how long ?)<br>
for any smaller edit as long as there's no (discussed ?)
regulation for this.<br>
It simply doesn't make sense to discuss each and every step,<br>
then the OSM development would soon die (or be replaced by
another community project).</p>
<p>If there were any reason exept his personal one,<br>
there would be a lot of work to do in the wiki.</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Thilo</p>
<div>Am 11.05.2018 um 13:46 schrieb Data Working Group:</div>
<div
cite="mid:1526039166.856589.197947213.11621.8@otrs.openstreetmap.org"
style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm
0cm 0cm 4.0pt" type="cite">Dear Thilo Haug,<br>
<br>
the removal of images from the Wiki page by Mateusz Konieczny
is in line with the usual design of our wiki pages where
images are used to clarify mapping. Our wiki pages are not
galleries of pretty images related to the topic at hand.<br>
<br>
If you feel that the many large images that you added are
necessary to explain the tagging of space ports, please start
a discussion with the other community members on <a
class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport</a>.
If the result of that discussion is that the inclusion of
images is desirable, then we will consider acting against
someone who removes them.<br>
<br>
I don't understand your question about the legitimacy of DWG
powers and in how far it applies to this situation. Please
elaborate.<br>
<br>
Best regards<br>
Frederik Ramm<br>
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moz-do-not-send="true">data@osmfoundation.org</a><br>
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05/11/2018 10:18 - Thilo Haug OSM wrote:
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>this guy acts like a would-be local sheriff,<br>
could you please prevent this ?</p>
<p>AFAIK the "members of the DWG" aren't legitimated
democratically<br>
to do anything they personally think is correct,<br>
or is this a case of "of removing of "redacting"
information<br>
that cannot be distributed in OSM for legal reasons" ?</p>
<p>Cheers,<br>
Thilo</p>
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<td>OpenStreetMap Wiki page Tag:aeroway=spaceport
has been changed by Mateusz Konieczny</td>
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<td>Fri, 11 May 2018 07:55:01 +0000</td>
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<td>OpenStreetMap Wiki <a
class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
href="mailto:wiki@noreply.openstreetmap.org"
target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><wiki@noreply.openstreetmap.org></a></td>
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target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">wiki@noreply.openstreetmap.org</a></td>
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<pre>Dear Rtfm,
The OpenStreetMap Wiki page Tag:aeroway=spaceport has been changed on
11 May 2018 by Mateusz Konieczny, see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport</a> for the
current revision.
To view this change, see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&diff=next&oldid=1607969" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&diff=next&oldid=1607969</a>
For all changes since your last visit, see
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&diff=0&oldid=1607969" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:aeroway%3Dspaceport&diff=0&oldid=1607969</a>
Editor's summary: Undo revision 1607969 by
[[Special:Contributions/Rtfm|Rtfm]] ([[User talk:Rtfm|talk]]) remove
1000px gallery image
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