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<p class="MsoNormal"><span lang="EN-GB" style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">I would argue that as long as there is an access tagging scheme the road classes should have no implicit access values,
regardless of class. As for driveways, in most cases the geometry makes tagging like destination quite pointless anyway, just like adding a no exit tag would be.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Yves [mailto:yvecai@gmail.com]
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<b>Sent:</b> onsdag 23. mai 2018 16.52<br>
<b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <tagging@openstreetmap.org>; Florian Lohoff <f@zz.de>; tagging@openstreetmap.org<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] highway=service // public road?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I always found it strange to find a driveway over a few kilometers in a mountainous area given the picture available in the wiki
<a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service=driveway</a><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Le 23 mai 2018 09:18:35 GMT+02:00, Florian Lohoff <<a href="mailto:f@zz.de">f@zz.de</a>> a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre><br>Hi,<br><br>in the past 10 years or so my impression of a service road was that it<br>is typically not a public road per se and not part of the other roads<br>classifications. It is a piece of tarmac built for a specific purpose by<br>somebody not necessarily the public authorities. The public most likely<br>does not have a right of way although this might need additional<br>tagging.<br><br>I now see increasing usage of service roads as a category below<br>unclassified. People tagging "smaller roads" in the countryside<br>as a service roads. <br><br>I find this a little disturbing and now got into an argument whereas<br>my position is the above - broken down into my more strict language:<br><br>- If the public has a right of way<br>- The road is build/run by public authorities<br>- Its not something obvious like a parking space<br>- It cant be service<br><br>It might not fit 100% everywhere, but no rule without its exception.<br><br>The Argument of the usage is:<br>- It only serves as access to a single house/company/farm.<br><br>IMHO It should be driveway (Where there is no right of way and no name)<br>when its not in public ownership, or unclassified with all the<br>bells and whistles like a name, maxspeed etc.<br><br>To find those roads in my QA tools i dump/highlight roads which<br>are highway=service and carry a name. The argument behind this is that<br>at least in Germany only official public roads get names in a process<br>called "Widmung" 1) - So if it carries a name, either the name has<br>been copied (E.g. people copying the residentials name to all driveways)<br>or somebody has "downgraded" a public road to a service.<br><br>So i am asking where my misconception is:<br><br>- Is service a street category below unclassified/residential?<br>- Does a service road typically have a right of way for the public?<br>- Is service usage "just because there is only one house/company/farm"<br> valid? <br> <br>Flo<br>1) <a href="https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenwidmung">https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C3%9Fenwidmung</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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Yves<o:p></o:p></p>
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