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<span style="font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">> But deprecating landuse=forest of redefining lanes tag is not going to happen.</span>
<br><div><br></div><div>I believe you, and I think active deprecation is not advocated in this discussion. It's about facilitating a better alternative beside landuse=forest, for situations where te landuse is in fact niet forestry but e.g. residential or military, </div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-06-07 18:41 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div>I responded to "what's wrong with getting rid of these bad choices?"</div><div><br></div><div>I see nothing wrong with using landcover=trees.</div><div><br></div><div>But in context of this discussion I understood "bad choices" as landuse=forest.</div><div><br></div><div>BTW, I am happy to fix some broken tagging - for example I am regularly hunting down</div><div>demolished=yes (for example on buildings), made/make multiple mechanical edits</div><div>cleaning up tags (yes, it is approved by local community and follows mechanical edit policy).<br></div><div><br></div><div>But deprecating landuse=forest of redefining lanes tag is not going to happen.</div><div><br></div>7. Jun 2018 16:11 by <a href="mailto:pelderson@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">pelderson@gmail.com</a>:<div><div class="h5"><br><br><blockquote class="m_6249465520451274716tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px"><div>Rendering landcover=trees is not the same as deprecating landuse=forest.<div><br></div><div>It just offers the option to tag tree-covered areas on a different landuse such as industrial, military, residential or commercial.</div><div><br></div><div>I do expect a shift from landuse=forest to landcover=trees, as soon as it would be rendered. </div><div><br></div><div>Not because of retagging of all forests, but because of tagging the smaller treecovered patches mainly in residential areas, which are now either mistagged as forests, orchards, parks and gardens, or are not tagged at all because it isn't landuse as it is defined in the wiki.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2018-06-07 15:36 GMT+02:00 Mateusz Konieczny <<a href="mailto:matkoniecz@tutanota.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">matkoniecz@tutanota.com</a>>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<br><br><br>7. Jun 2018 11:53 by <a href="mailto:selfishseahorse@gmail.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">selfishseahorse@gmail.com</a>:<br><br><blockquote class="m_6249465520451274716m_1970537915114841646tutanota_quote" style="border-left:1px solid #93a3b8;padding-left:10px;margin-left:5px">On 7 June 2018 at 10:46, Christoph Hormann <<a href="mailto:osm@imagico.de" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">osm@imagico.de</a>> wrote:<blockquote>There are tons of established tags in OSM where the key makes no sense<br>at all. Don't get me started on 'waterway' for example. But that is<br>how OSM works. Get over it, accept that people have made bad choices<br>of keys when choosing tags and concentrate on encouraging and helping<br>people to choose suitable keys when newly creating tags (in a<br>productive way of course, not just by rejecting any idea as bad).</blockquote><br>And what's wrong with getting rid of these bad choices?</blockquote><p><br></p><p> Cost, effort and confusion is not worth positive effects.</p><p><br></p><p>Revolutions are really rarely worth costs.</p><p><br></p><p>Making tagging more consistent is not one of this cases.</p><p><br></p><p>Improvements are possible but not when it starts from "deprecate landuse=forest because it is not used to tag land use".</p> </div>
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