<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">There are hotel lounges that offer showering facilities, but to access these lounges (executive lounges, clubs - they are called different names), you normally need to check in/be of elite status (hence the need for an access scheme described in the RFP). There are usually various amenities (food/drink/wlan) provided, if not showers, so a separate tagging scheme as suggested would be more convenient, rather than lounge=yes on the main node.<div><br><div>I feel like making this a PT tag limits it quite a bit, since some of these are a bit more than just a waiting room. Although admittedly most are connected to (public) transport, having a universal tag seems to allow better coverage overall. <br><br><div>Anton</div><div><br>10/06/2018, 4:33, Johnparis <<a href="mailto:okosm@johnfreed.com">okosm@johnfreed.com</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr">I would think hotel lounges don't qualify, then, under what you're describing. I've never seen one that offers showers. Hotel lounges are just alcoholic bars in a hotel. You want a shower, you have to check in to the hotel.<div><br></div><div>As a node or area (room?) within a public_transport=station, it makes sense to me. I'd limit it to those. </div><div><br></div><div>Are they really amenities? Maybe public_transport=lounge? Or public_transport=station + lounge=yes ? Either way you would have the option of wlan=yes/no, shower=yes/no, etc., though with the latter it's not clear whether those options apply only within the lounge. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 11:25 PM, Anton Klim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tohaklim@gmail.com" target="_blank">tohaklim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto">Thanks for the reply Volker!<div><br></div><div>I had in mind a tag to describe the first 2 of the definitions given by you (a hotel “lounge” in my mind is more like an airport lounge than a plain lobby). </div><div>For alcoholic bars the current tagging scheme appears sufficient so I didn’t mean to cover that. That is not to say that there isn’t alcohol served at the other 2 types of “lounges”.</div><div>I believe a general approach might be too complicated/convoluted, especially in the case of waiting rooms at gov offices and the like - more indoor mapping territory to me. </div><div>The proposal was designed to cover all the other, usually transport-related glorified waiting rooms/lounges. It can be used for simple waiting rooms, but is really useful for lounges with added amenities, e.g showers, food.<br><br><br><div>Anton</div><div><br>9/06/2018, 22:20, Volker Schmidt <<a href="mailto:voschix@gmail.com" target="_blank">voschix@gmail.com</a>>:<br><br></div><div><div class="h5"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div>The term Lounge has several distinct meanings, amongst them<br></div><div>Airport Lounge</div><div>Hotel Lobby</div><div>Alcohol Bar</div><div><br></div><div>Which one do you have in mind?</div><div><br></div><div>If the first one, then maybe a more general approach should be taken to deal with all kinds of waiting rooms (at a train station, at a bus station, at airports, at a medical facility, at the tax office, ...</div><div>An Airport Lounge is more or less modelled on a first-class train-station waiting room. <br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 9 June 2018 at 14:02, Anton Klim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:tohaklim@gmail.com" target="_blank">tohaklim@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hey everyone,<div><br></div><div>A prolonged waiting period spend sitting in a lounge gave me an opportunity to send out the draft proposal for lounges, which can be found here:</div><div><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Lounges" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org<wbr>/wiki/Proposed_features/Lounge<wbr>s</a></div><div><br></div><div>What is proposed:</div><div>
<span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">A distinct<span> </span></span><tt dir="ltr" class="m_6320022273743514316m_1129002980515859010gmail-mw-content-ltr" style="font-family:monospace,Courier;font-size:1em;direction:ltr;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;background:rgb(238,238,255);line-height:1.6"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity" title="Key:amenity" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(11,0,128);background:none" target="_blank">amenity</a>=*</tt><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span>value for lounges (</span><img alt="[W]" title="Wikipedia" style="border:0px;vertical-align:middle;margin:0px;color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial" width="16" height="16" src="cid:"><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline"><span> </span></span><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lounge" class="m_6320022273743514316m_1129002980515859010extiw" title="wikipedia:Lounge" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(102,51,102);background:none rgb(255,255,255);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px" target="_blank">Lounge</a><span style="color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:sans-serif;font-size:14px;font-style:normal;font-variant-ligatures:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:400;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">), usually used to describe a comfortable waiting area with optional food/drink/other facilities, is proposed.</span> </div><div><br></div><div>I was quite surprised to see no tag was already in wide use/agreed on, but happy to be proven wrong if I missed it.</div><div>As usual with these things, suggestions/comments are very welcome.</div><div><br></div><div>Have a good weekend, <span class="m_6320022273743514316HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_6320022273743514316m_1129002980515859010gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="georgia, serif">Anton</font></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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