<div dir="ltr"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">> Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;font-size:12.8px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><br></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Agree based on the description given at </span><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station</a> it sounds like lifeguard_base.</span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px">Just based on the tag name I thought it meant something like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard</a>. The wikipedia page seems to indicate coast_guard is a common term internationally (even though many of the agencies worldwide aren't known as the "Coast Guard", it seems like it's common enough for emergency=coast_guard.<br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px"><br></span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0px;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri, sans-serif"><span style="font-size:14.6667px">I wonder if any of the current water_rescue_station's are really coast guards?</span></font></p><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 11 June 2018 at 15:04,  <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au" target="_blank">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-1558832614838090358WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">These are different things, and the differentiation should definitely not simply thrown away.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Though I’m not fundamentally opposed to making it a hierarchical tag along the lines of:<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">emergency=lifeguard<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">lifeguard=base/place/platform/<wbr>tower<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">All the usual arguments for and against trying to change tags “by decree” apply…<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Bryan Housel <<a href="mailto:bhousel@gmail.com" target="_blank">bhousel@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 June 2018 14:22<br><b>To:</b> osm-tagging <<a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div><div class="h5"><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">I was looking at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Key:emergency</a> today.<u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We have too many tags for different kinds of lifeguards.  This is too confusing.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I don’t want to have to show all these choices to iD users.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><table class="m_-1558832614838090358MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="668" style="width:501.0pt;background:white;border-collapse:collapse;box-sizing:border-box;border-spacing:0px;overflow:auto"><thead><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">tag<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt"><p class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center"><b><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">uses<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td></tr></thead><tbody><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_base" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4078c0;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%<wbr>3Dlifeguard_base</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">202<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#f6f8fa;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_place" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4078c0;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%<wbr>3Dlifeguard_place</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;background:#f6f8fa;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">39<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_platform" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4078c0;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%<wbr>3Dlifeguard_platform</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">24<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#f6f8fa;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_tower" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4078c0;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%<wbr>3Dlifeguard_tower</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;background:#f6f8fa;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">424<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr style="box-sizing:border-box"><td style="border:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e"><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=water_rescue_station" target="_blank"><span style="color:#4078c0;text-decoration:none">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%<wbr>3Dwater_rescue_station</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #dfe2e5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing:border-box"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292e">197<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">More details here:<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/4918#issuecomment-374611561" target="_blank">https://github.com/<wbr>openstreetmap/iD/issues/4918#<wbr>issuecomment-374611561</a><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Let’s just use one tag <b>`emergency=lifeguard`</b><u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">We can change this before the tags gain too much more traction (a few hundred uses is not very many)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">If people really want to map whatever the lifeguard sits on, they can use a different tag for that.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">`lifeguard_type=platform`  or `tower` or something.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Thanks, Bryan<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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