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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-AU link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>These are different things, and the differentiation should definitely not simply thrown away.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Though I’m not fundamentally opposed to making it a hierarchical tag along the lines of:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>emergency=lifeguard<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>lifeguard=base/place/platform/tower<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Also, water_rescue_station is probably identical to lifeguard_base<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>All the usual arguments for and against trying to change tags “by decree” apply…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Bryan Housel <bhousel@gmail.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 June 2018 14:22<br><b>To:</b> osm-tagging <tagging@openstreetmap.org><br><b>Subject:</b> [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>I was looking at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency">https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:emergency</a> today.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have too many tags for different kinds of lifeguards. This is too confusing.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I don’t want to have to show all these choices to iD users.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width=668 style='width:501.0pt;background:white;border-collapse:collapse;box-sizing: border-box;border-spacing: 0px;orphans: 2;widows: 2;overflow:auto'><thead><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>tag<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><b><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>uses<o:p></o:p></span></b></p></td></tr></thead><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_base"><span style='color:#4078C0;text-decoration:none'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dlifeguard_base</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>202<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#F6F8FA;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_place"><span style='color:#4078C0;text-decoration:none'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dlifeguard_place</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;background:#F6F8FA;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>39<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_platform"><span style='color:#4078C0;text-decoration:none'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dlifeguard_platform</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>24<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-top:none;background:#F6F8FA;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=lifeguard_tower"><span style='color:#4078C0;text-decoration:none'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dlifeguard_tower</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;background:#F6F8FA;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>424<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr><tr style='box-sizing: border-box'><td style='border:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'><a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency=water_rescue_station"><span style='color:#4078C0;text-decoration:none'>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Aemergency%3Dwater_rescue_station</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td><td style='border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;border-right:solid #DFE2E5 1.0pt;padding:4.5pt 9.75pt 4.5pt 9.75pt;box-sizing: border-box'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#24292E'>197<o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>More details here:<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/4918#issuecomment-374611561">https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD/issues/4918#issuecomment-374611561</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Let’s just use one tag <b>`emergency=lifeguard`</b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We can change this before the tags gain too much more traction (a few hundred uses is not very many)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>If people really want to map whatever the lifeguard sits on, they can use a different tag for that.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>`lifeguard_type=platform` or `tower` or something.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks, Bryan<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>