<div dir="ltr">So, after a few days thought, can we say that we've resolved to work on asking for emergency=lifeguard to be rendered, which would then go down to lifeguard=base etc?<div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all"><div><div class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></div></div></div></div></div>
<br><div class="gmail_quote">On 12 June 2018 at 07:43, Graeme Fitzpatrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank">graemefitz1@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><div class="gmail_quote"><div><div class="h5">On 11 June 2018 at 17:25, Warin <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div class="h5">
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<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">On 11/06/18 15:39,
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><b><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11pt" lang="EN-US"> Andrew Harvey
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, 11 June 2018 15:31<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">> Also,
water_rescue_station is probably identical to
lifeguard_base</span><span style="font-size:9.5pt"><u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Agree
based on the description given at <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater_rescue_station" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/Tag:emergency%3Dwater<wbr>_rescue_station</a>
it sounds like lifeguard_base.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">Just
based on the tag name I thought it meant something
like <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coast_guard" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/<wbr>wiki/Coast_guard</a>.
The wikipedia page seems to indicate coast_guard is a
common term internationally (even though many of the
agencies worldwide aren't known as the "Coast Guard",
it seems like it's common enough for
emergency=coast_guard.<u></u><u></u></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">That was my first thought
too, but then I looked at the description on the wiki
and it very much sounds like a life guard base and not
a coast guard station.</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">I
wonder if any of the current water_rescue_station's
are really coast guards?</span><u></u><u></u></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:11pt">That’s certainly possible. If
the decision is made to merge these keys, they will
probably all need to be manually checked.</span></font></p>
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Err not in the uk ... coast guard is not military.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">See </font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><a class="m_3992388110227158314m_8844200670260342621moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Her_Majesty%27s_Coastguard" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Her_Majesty%27s_Coastguard</a></font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><a class="m_3992388110227158314m_8844200670260342621moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_National_Lifeboat_Institution" target="_blank">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/<wbr>Royal_National_Lifeboat_Instit<wbr>ution</a></font></p>
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In Australia that are volunteers that do marine rescue e.g.</font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif"><a class="m_3992388110227158314m_8844200670260342621moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://marinerescueqld.org.au/" target="_blank">http://marinerescueqld.org.au/</a></font></p>
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None of these fit in to the beach lifeguard situation. </font></p>
<p><font face="Calibri,sans-serif">I have no idea what the though
was behind the OSM water rescue station . I think that is just
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<span style="font-size:small;background-color:rgb(255,255,255);text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial;float:none;display:inline">Agree with you that "Coast Guard" is not a one-size-fits-all term.</span><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">There is amenity=rescue_station <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Drescue_station" target="_blank">https:/<wbr>/wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/<wbr>Tag:amenity%3Drescue_station</a>, which, to my mind should actually also be an emergency= listing?</div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br></div><div style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial">Looking at that, it appears that the whole emergency= area has been going to be cleaned up <a href="https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Emergency_Cleanup" target="_blank">https://wiki.openstreetmap.<wbr>org/wiki/WikiProject_<wbr>Emergency_Cleanup</a> - for the last 4 years! </div><div class="gmail_extra" style="font-size:small;text-decoration-style:initial;text-decoration-color:initial"><br clear="all"><div><div class="m_3992388110227158314gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr">Thanks<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888"><div><br></div><div>Graeme</div></font></span></div></div></div></div></div></div>
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