<div dir="ltr">> I don’t think just because a lifeguard=place isn’t there 24/7, 365 days a year means it isn’t a lifeguard=place.<br><div><br></div><div>Agreed, lifeguard=place might just have a flag/chair which is only there sometimes, which so long as there is some regularity to it, I think is fine for OSM.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 18 June 2018 at 18:39, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au" target="_blank">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-AU" link="blue" vlink="purple"><div class="m_-7681899842488020843WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"> Warin <<a href="mailto:61sundowner@gmail.com" target="_blank">61sundowner@gmail.com</a>> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 June 2018 17:35<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank">tagging@openstreetmap.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard<u></u><u></u></span></p><span class=""><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">On 18/06/18 16:24, <a href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au" target="_blank">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.<wbr>id.au</a> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span lang="EN-US" style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Graeme Fitzpatrick <a href="mailto:graemefitz1@gmail.com" target="_blank"><graemefitz1@gmail.com></a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 18 June 2018 16:01<br><b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools <a href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org" target="_blank"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] emergency=lifeguard</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal">while some show a shape in one image, but other's, possibly during the northern winter, show an empty deserted beach.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p></div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I would consider lifeguard=place to be still acceptable for these if there is some defined time when a lifeguard is present. Maybe specified with a seasonal tag or opening_hours (e.g. only on weekends or something like that).</span><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p><span style="font-size:13.5pt">If it is not near water .. then how does it match the general perception of 'lifeguard'? </span><u></u><u></u></p><p><span class="m_-7681899842488020843st"><span style="font-size:13.5pt">Definition of </span></span><em><span style="font-size:13.5pt">lifeguard</span></em><span class="m_-7681899842488020843st"><span style="font-size:13.5pt"> - an expert swimmer employed to rescue bathers who get into difficulty at a beach or swimming pool.<u></u><u></u></span></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></span><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Where did I ever say something else?<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">The one particular case I quoted, and for which I said lifeguard=place might still apply is “where a shape is visible in some imagery, but not in other” showing an “empty deserted *beach*”. Which pretty clearly implies that it’s near water.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">I don’t think just because a lifeguard=place isn’t there 24/7, 365 days a year means it isn’t a lifeguard=place.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext">Which is why I said that tags like seasonal (e.g. only in summer) or opening_hours (e.g. only on weekend, only in specific know times, …) might apply.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:windowtext"><u></u> <u></u></span></p></div></div><br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br>
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