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Am 15.06.2018 um 18:14 schrieb <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au">osm.tagging@thorsten.engler.id.au</a>:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">They
DO have exactly this type of living street in the
Netherlands too, see <a
href="https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woonerf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">But
the particular street Peter is talking about is, on purpose,
NOT such a living street.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
street itself is a normal residential street, with sidewalks
and raised kerbs. You can easily see that if you follow it
along with streetview.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">The
only thing “special” about it is the way how they designed
the point where it exits into the other street.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">I
can’t remember having seen this particular design (exit into
another street designed like a living street or driveway,
but the street itself being just a normal street) anywhere
else.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Actually, we have the same thing in Germany. It's not only for
living streets as Martin already pointed out but also for any other
streets exiting over a lowered curb. Traffic exiting from such
street has to behave the same way as when exiting from a driveway,
i. e. drive with extreme caution and wait for any other traffic
including pedestrians to pass (§10 StVO). I have no clue, though, if
there is any established tagging for that here. <br>
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Tobias<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Cheers,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">Thorsten<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
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lang="EN-US"> yo paseopor <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:yopaseopor@gmail.com"><yopaseopor@gmail.com></a>
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<b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 16 June 2018 01:59<br>
<b>To:</b> Tag discussion, strategy and related tools
<a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:tagging@openstreetmap.org"><tagging@openstreetmap.org></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Tagging] Street exits<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">In Spain when we have this kind of exit
applies the traffic sign and the rules of living street,
as you can see in <br>
<a
href="https://www.google.nl/maps/@41.2187293,1.7332079,3a,44.9y,155.43h,88.86t/data=%213m9%211e1%213m7%211swoQsNOW-rj_haPcAnawoYw%212e0%217i13312%218i6656%219m2%211b1%212i40"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.google.nl/maps/@41.2187293,1.7332079,3a,44.9y,155.43h,88.86t/data=!3m9!1e1!3m7!1swoQsNOW-rj_haPcAnawoYw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!9m2!1b1!2i40</a>
, a normal street becomes living at the end and the exit
to another "normal street". In OSM is <a
href="https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/41.21845/1.73337"
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/41.21845/1.73337</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">I'm
wondering if instead of not having the same traffic sign
it would be the same thing...<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Salut i mapes<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">yopaseopor<o:p></o:p></p>
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